Local plan edges closer to timetable stage

Paul Hodgkinson is upset his question about the local plan was not answered

Paul Hodgkinson is upset his question about the local plan was not answered

First published in News Wilts and Gloucestershire Standard: Brendan McFadden
Wilts and Glos Standard by , Reporter

DETAILS of consultation over documents that set out planning policy in the district will be revealed next week.

The council currently has no up-to-date Local Plan and is using a draft version, meaning that developers have more chance of winning appeals against planning decisions.

Cotswold District Council will consider a report that sets out the timetable to launch a full Local Plan at its cabinet meeting on September 4.

The announcement follows a complaint from the council’s opposition leader Paul Hodgkinson that his questions onregarding the Local Plan had not been answered.

Cllr Hodgkinson said at the district council’s planning meeting this month: “‘Five residents and two parish councils have raised concerns with me over the time being taken to process planning applications.

“There are clearly a lot of issues – staff shortages, IT – but the most troubling is the disruption that planning appeals are having on the council.

“These appeals only happened because the council had no five year housing supply or an up to date Local Plan.When will this council get its act together and have one?”

Robin Hughes, chairman of CDC’s planning committee, said external constraints are affecting the timetable for public consultation.

He added that the report on the updated timetable was due to be considered at the CDC Cabinet meeting next month.

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6:54pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Olly Cromwell says...

In this week's newspaper a letter was published from the Earl Bathurst revealing the much delayed timetable for our missing Local housing Plan.

It stated the draft Plan would be ready by the end of 2015 to be submitted to Government, and formally adopted in the summer of 2016.

- How come the Earl knows more about this timetable than the Council?
- How come the President of Cirencester's Conservative Association (same man) knows more about the timetable than any Tory Cabinet Member?
- How come the landowning farmer selling Chesterton Farm (same man) to developers knows more about the timetable than residents impacted?

Answers came there none
In this week's newspaper a letter was published from the Earl Bathurst revealing the much delayed timetable for our missing Local housing Plan. It stated the draft Plan would be ready by the end of 2015 to be submitted to Government, and formally adopted in the summer of 2016. - How come the Earl knows more about this timetable than the Council? - How come the President of Cirencester's Conservative Association (same man) knows more about the timetable than any Tory Cabinet Member? - How come the landowning farmer selling Chesterton Farm (same man) to developers knows more about the timetable than residents impacted? Answers came there none Olly Cromwell
  • Score: 2

8:53pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Alan Dickinson says...

Most of the Cllrs don't know what is going on, don't understand the planning process which is why most applications go through sanctioned by the officers. Public comments are ignored, full details are not published and the planners try and keep anything contentious away from the planning committee as that means exposing details to the public.

The draft plan on planning policy is already "The Policy" but we have to go through the charade of consultation. The power in planning lies not with the elected representatives but with the planning department so can we cut the "BS" get real and start applying pressure in the right place the planning department. Then get rid of the current crop of Cllrs elect new ones that are apolitical and we might start getting somewhere !
Most of the Cllrs don't know what is going on, don't understand the planning process which is why most applications go through sanctioned by the officers. Public comments are ignored, full details are not published and the planners try and keep anything contentious away from the planning committee as that means exposing details to the public. The draft plan on planning policy is already "The Policy" but we have to go through the charade of consultation. The power in planning lies not with the elected representatives but with the planning department so can we cut the "BS" get real and start applying pressure in the right place the planning department. Then get rid of the current crop of Cllrs elect new ones that are apolitical and we might start getting somewhere ! Alan Dickinson
  • Score: 13

3:04pm Sat 30 Aug 14

GWS Observer says...

Is it possible that someone, Olly perhaps, could explain what the Lib Dem position is on the Town Council where it is understood that councillors do not currently have an official position to oppose or scale back the proposed Chesterton development beyond indicating general support for the development of a "Growth of Cirencester" community-based concept statement, whatever that means? Surely councillors of all political persuasions, Lib Dems and Conservatives among them, know the proposed timetable for the approval of the draft Local Plan which can be viewed on the district council's website? I think, too, that it should not be assumed that there will not be changes to what is proposed coming out of the consultation exercise or that a premature planning application anticipating the Local Plan would be approved if it was submitted.
Is it possible that someone, Olly perhaps, could explain what the Lib Dem position is on the Town Council where it is understood that councillors do not currently have an official position to oppose or scale back the proposed Chesterton development beyond indicating general support for the development of a "Growth of Cirencester" community-based concept statement, whatever that means? Surely councillors of all political persuasions, Lib Dems and Conservatives among them, know the proposed timetable for the approval of the draft Local Plan which can be viewed on the district council's website? I think, too, that it should not be assumed that there will not be changes to what is proposed coming out of the consultation exercise or that a premature planning application anticipating the Local Plan would be approved if it was submitted. GWS Observer
  • Score: 2

4:41pm Sat 30 Aug 14

Col Mustard says...

The current "vacuum " works in favour of developers hence the progress on the draft plan will take as long as possible. There is too much money at stake to be jeopardised . Can someone point to one councillor that has come up some constructive rationale or comment on this mess ?
As for Cirencester Town Council it's like something out of Dads Army with Pike running the farce !
The current "vacuum " works in favour of developers hence the progress on the draft plan will take as long as possible. There is too much money at stake to be jeopardised . Can someone point to one councillor that has come up some constructive rationale or comment on this mess ? As for Cirencester Town Council it's like something out of Dads Army with Pike running the farce ! Col Mustard
  • Score: 1

4:45pm Sat 30 Aug 14

Rex Cooper says...

There has to be a full public statement of status after the 4th September meeting or CDC will lose any semblance of credibility
There has to be a full public statement of status after the 4th September meeting or CDC will lose any semblance of credibility Rex Cooper
  • Score: 0

4:56pm Sat 30 Aug 14

Pentheus says...

"Robin Hughes, chairman of CDC’s planning committee, said external constraints are affecting the timetable for public consultation."

What sort of nonsense statement does that mean ? What does he mean by "External Constraints" ? an up coming election where the ruling "Cabal" get flushed away?

Is everybody just not tired of all this abject rubbish....
"Robin Hughes, chairman of CDC’s planning committee, said external constraints are affecting the timetable for public consultation." What sort of nonsense statement does that mean ? What does he mean by "External Constraints" ? an up coming election where the ruling "Cabal" get flushed away? Is everybody just not tired of all this abject rubbish.... Pentheus
  • Score: 7

11:18am Sun 31 Aug 14

safetyaware says...

Perhaps the Chairman of the CDC Planning Committee needs to look very closely at his planning department to see why such erroneous decisions are made. Many appear to be on a whim of an individual. Permits are not enforced and major applications are given a very positive bias when and if they are put to Committee, despite public opposition! What is going on in this department?
Perhaps the Chairman of the CDC Planning Committee needs to look very closely at his planning department to see why such erroneous decisions are made. Many appear to be on a whim of an individual. Permits are not enforced and major applications are given a very positive bias when and if they are put to Committee, despite public opposition! What is going on in this department? safetyaware
  • Score: 1

5:28pm Sun 31 Aug 14

Alan Dickinson says...

The CDC Planning Department is not fit for purpose. They had better start taking notice of this published on August 4th 2014.

https://www.gov.uk/g
overnment/publicatio
ns/open-and-accounta
ble-local-government
-plain-english-guide


Its intention according to the guidelines is to ensure.

"Transparency and openness should be the fundamental principle behind everything councils and other local government bodies do, and new rights have now been introduced by the Openness of Local Government Bodies 2014, which will enable members of the public to know how decisions are made."

Wouldn't that be nice !

ps .It is now quite permissible to video public meetings including the "Planning Committee" ...... so read the guide , know your rights and use them.We just might then get some "Transparency and Openness" ....
The CDC Planning Department is not fit for purpose. They had better start taking notice of this published on August 4th 2014. https://www.gov.uk/g overnment/publicatio ns/open-and-accounta ble-local-government -plain-english-guide Its intention according to the guidelines is to ensure. "Transparency and openness should be the fundamental principle behind everything councils and other local government bodies do, and new rights have now been introduced by the Openness of Local Government Bodies 2014, which will enable members of the public to know how decisions are made." Wouldn't that be nice ! ps .It is now quite permissible to video public meetings including the "Planning Committee" ...... so read the guide , know your rights and use them.We just might then get some "Transparency and Openness" .... Alan Dickinson
  • Score: 3

8:59pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Rex Cooper says...

Col Mustard wrote:
The current "vacuum " works in favour of developers hence the progress on the draft plan will take as long as possible. There is too much money at stake to be jeopardised . Can someone point to one councillor that has come up some constructive rationale or comment on this mess ?
As for Cirencester Town Council it's like something out of Dads Army with Pike running the farce !
This reference to Cirencester Town Council is a total red herring
Accountability for this mess lies with Cotswold District Council - dominated by conservative councillors who do not live near Cirencester. Their "three monkeys" policy is going to backfire on them.
They are so far from fulfilling their obligations and duties it borders on negligence. This time however it is so bad that in trying to screw residents they may end up screwing the developers.
[quote][p][bold]Col Mustard[/bold] wrote: The current "vacuum " works in favour of developers hence the progress on the draft plan will take as long as possible. There is too much money at stake to be jeopardised . Can someone point to one councillor that has come up some constructive rationale or comment on this mess ? As for Cirencester Town Council it's like something out of Dads Army with Pike running the farce ![/p][/quote]This reference to Cirencester Town Council is a total red herring Accountability for this mess lies with Cotswold District Council - dominated by conservative councillors who do not live near Cirencester. Their "three monkeys" policy is going to backfire on them. They are so far from fulfilling their obligations and duties it borders on negligence. This time however it is so bad that in trying to screw residents they may end up screwing the developers. Rex Cooper
  • Score: 1

12:43pm Tue 2 Sep 14

GWS Observer says...

It is of course the case that Cotswold District Council as the planning authority is responsible for the preparation of, the public consultation on, and the submission to the Secretary of State for approval before adoption, of the draft Local Plan. Nonetheless, there is a clear, as yet unmet, expectation that Cirencester Town Council, of whom 14 of 15 elected members are Liberal Democrats, will take up a formal position on the Chesterton proposal, particularly as a number of these same councillors are also elected Cotswold District Councillors. It would be helpful to all if Paul, who leads the Lib Dem Group at Cotswold District Council having started this conversation, could now complete it to say unequivocally what the Lib Dem position on Chesterton actually is.
It is of course the case that Cotswold District Council as the planning authority is responsible for the preparation of, the public consultation on, and the submission to the Secretary of State for approval before adoption, of the draft Local Plan. Nonetheless, there is a clear, as yet unmet, expectation that Cirencester Town Council, of whom 14 of 15 elected members are Liberal Democrats, will take up a formal position on the Chesterton proposal, particularly as a number of these same councillors are also elected Cotswold District Councillors. It would be helpful to all if Paul, who leads the Lib Dem Group at Cotswold District Council having started this conversation, could now complete it to say unequivocally what the Lib Dem position on Chesterton actually is. GWS Observer
  • Score: 1
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