Residents back petition to stop Chesterton housing development

Gordon Burley signs the petition

Gordon Burley signs the petition

First published in News Wilts and Gloucestershire Standard: Brendan McFadden
Wilts and Glos Standard by , Reporter

A PETITION opposing a controversial housing development in Cirencester has received nearly half the number of signatures it requires within a week of it being launched.

According to the district council’s planning document, 2,500 homes need to be built in the Chesterton Farm area by 2034.

The Save Our Cirencester group conceived the petition which is asking the district council to reconsider its policy.

The petition is asking that the document includes a fairer distribution of housing numbers across the towns and villages in the district.

If the petition receives more than 850 signatures the group’s request must be debated by CDC.

Save Our Cirencester believe there has been inadequate consultation on the plan and that Chesterton is bearing the brunt of CDC’s need to build 6,900 homes by 2031 to meet government targets.

On Friday, the petition was available for signing for the first time outside the Parish Church in Cirencester and 400 people signed it.

Patrick Moylan, of Save Our Cirencester, said: “This has to show there is a high amount of support to try and make the council think again on this development because it is not going to solve the problem, it is going to destroy Cirencester.”

Many concerned Cirencester residents who signed told the Standard why they thought the Chesterton development should not go ahead.

Gordon Burley, of Chesterton, said the development was far too large for Cirencester and that building homes in villages as well as creating small hamlets would be a better idea.

He said: “It is just too big for the town – far too big.”

“I know we have to get more houses in the town but a 30 or 40 per cent increase in the population is just too much for Cirencester.”

He added that he felt the district council had taken the easy option of planning all the homes on one area of land that Earl Bathurst had agreed to sell to developers.

“Earl Bathurst has immediately given them the opportunity to solve our problem. This is the easy option – building 2,500 homes in one place.”

Gordon Stone of Stratton was another who agreed that building in smaller areas of population across the district would be better.

He said: “If there is a reasonable amount of houses being built in these villages it would help solve the problem.”

“If they were to spread some of the houses, and they were lower cost, then we would get more young people there.” There are a lot of older people living in these villages.”

The petition will next be available to sign outside the Parish Church on Saturday.

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12:30pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Ciren_Resident says...

The petition is also available online here: https://you.38degree
s.org.uk/petitions/s
ave-our-cirencester
The petition is also available online here: https://you.38degree s.org.uk/petitions/s ave-our-cirencester Ciren_Resident
  • Score: 16

1:17pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Col Mustard says...

Bet the APPROVED planning decision goes through AFTER the Election 2015
Funny that ! ................. Still lets gets as many signatures as possible and show the true degree of contempt that exists for this development and the puppet planning department of the Conservatives at CDC !
Bet the APPROVED planning decision goes through AFTER the Election 2015 Funny that ! ................. Still lets gets as many signatures as possible and show the true degree of contempt that exists for this development and the puppet planning department of the Conservatives at CDC ! Col Mustard
  • Score: 6

1:19pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Col Mustard says...

Ciren_Resident can you please republish the link
Ciren_Resident can you please republish the link Col Mustard
  • Score: 9

2:48pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Ciren_Resident says...

https://you.38degree
s.org.uk/petitions/s
ave-our-cirencester

Col Mustard - here it is. These URLs sometimes become a bit disjointed after clicking the "post comment" button.

If you copy & paste into your internet address bar, just make sure there aren't any gaps before you press enter.

Failing that, find the 38 Degrees website and the petition can be found under the campaign "Save Our Cirencester"
https://you.38degree s.org.uk/petitions/s ave-our-cirencester Col Mustard - here it is. These URLs sometimes become a bit disjointed after clicking the "post comment" button. If you copy & paste into your internet address bar, just make sure there aren't any gaps before you press enter. Failing that, find the 38 Degrees website and the petition can be found under the campaign "Save Our Cirencester" Ciren_Resident
  • Score: 9

6:39pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Olly Cromwell says...

It is beyond comprehension how the President of Cirencester's Conservative Association (the Earl Bathurst) seeks to gain planning permission for 2,500 houses on prime arable land from Tory dominated Cotswold District Council's Planning Committee.

Once outline planning permission is granted the land will be sold for a rumoured £220 million to developers.

There is a clear pecuniary conflict of interest for any Tory Councillor sitting on this Committee, so this decision must be taken out of CDC's hands and referred to the Secretary of State.

A Tory land owner relying on Tory Council planning permission to benefit the Tory President raises the eyebrows of even the most generous observer (which I'm not!)
It is beyond comprehension how the President of Cirencester's Conservative Association (the Earl Bathurst) seeks to gain planning permission for 2,500 houses on prime arable land from Tory dominated Cotswold District Council's Planning Committee. Once outline planning permission is granted the land will be sold for a rumoured £220 million to developers. There is a clear pecuniary conflict of interest for any Tory Councillor sitting on this Committee, so this decision must be taken out of CDC's hands and referred to the Secretary of State. A Tory land owner relying on Tory Council planning permission to benefit the Tory President raises the eyebrows of even the most generous observer (which I'm not!) Olly Cromwell
  • Score: 8

10:22pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Rex Cooper says...

If there is a conflict of interest then why aren't the opposition councillors kicking up a stink ?
If there is a conflict of interest then why aren't the opposition councillors kicking up a stink ? Rex Cooper
  • Score: 12

6:23am Tue 19 Aug 14

Col Mustard says...

Its called corruption
Its called corruption Col Mustard
  • Score: 4

3:36pm Tue 19 Aug 14

R Cotswold says...

CDC is not called a 'rotten borough' for nothing. This is an outrage; but the Tory councillors are too weak and mired in embracing 'The Tory' scheme. Perhaps we should recommend these houses to be built in Moreton-on-the -Marsh, Bourton -on-the -Water or to nearby Burford or Chipping Norton; much more sensible.
The fact that many homes could be built within our local villages ; and our Local Planners at CDC is conveniently overlooked.
CDC is not called a 'rotten borough' for nothing. This is an outrage; but the Tory councillors are too weak and mired in embracing 'The Tory' scheme. Perhaps we should recommend these houses to be built in Moreton-on-the -Marsh, Bourton -on-the -Water or to nearby Burford or Chipping Norton; much more sensible. The fact that many homes could be built within our local villages [resented by NIMBY's; CPRE [another dubious organisation]; and our Local Planners at CDC is conveniently overlooked. R Cotswold
  • Score: -4

4:51pm Tue 19 Aug 14

Susie Clark says...

OK, all you Lib Dem naysayers - let's have your ideas on where Cirencester is going to find the 600 or so affordable homes that are needed for the town ( check it out on the CDC website - it's all there , showing just how many people are on the waiting list ).As I understand it places like Moreton, Bourton-on-the Water ,Stow on the Wold, Chipping Campden,Northleach and Tetbury are all having to find housing numbers over the odds - so why should Cirencester be different ?
Back to my original question - if not Chesterton,where exactly ? Perrotts Brook perhaps, or Stratton ? It is about time the local Lib Dems stopped criticising everyone else for making decisions, when they have no constructive ideas of their own .So Cirencester Town Council - where's your local neighbourhood plan - everyone else seems to be working on one. And then we'll hear your ideas on where to build - needless to say , wannabe MP, Olly Cromwell will find a link between any landowner and those wicked Tories. It's in his DNA - and it's election time next year.
OK, all you Lib Dem naysayers - let's have your ideas on where Cirencester is going to find the 600 or so affordable homes that are needed for the town ( check it out on the CDC website - it's all there , showing just how many people are on the waiting list ).As I understand it places like Moreton, Bourton-on-the Water ,Stow on the Wold, Chipping Campden,Northleach and Tetbury are all having to find housing numbers over the odds - so why should Cirencester be different ? Back to my original question - if not Chesterton,where exactly ? Perrotts Brook perhaps, or Stratton ? It is about time the local Lib Dems stopped criticising everyone else for making decisions, when they have no constructive ideas of their own .So Cirencester Town Council - where's your local neighbourhood plan - everyone else seems to be working on one. And then we'll hear your ideas on where to build - needless to say , wannabe MP, Olly Cromwell will find a link between any landowner and those wicked Tories. It's in his DNA - and it's election time next year. Susie Clark
  • Score: 1

6:33pm Tue 19 Aug 14

sgouri says...

I suggest we all email the petition link to all our Cirencester friends and family so they can sign too if they wish.

https://you.38degree
s.org.uk/petitions/s
ave-our-cirencester
I suggest we all email the petition link to all our Cirencester friends and family so they can sign too if they wish. https://you.38degree s.org.uk/petitions/s ave-our-cirencester sgouri
  • Score: 10

6:46pm Tue 19 Aug 14

blackdog27 says...

R Cotswold wrote:
CDC is not called a 'rotten borough' for nothing. This is an outrage; but the Tory councillors are too weak and mired in embracing 'The Tory' scheme. Perhaps we should recommend these houses to be built in Moreton-on-the -Marsh, Bourton -on-the -Water or to nearby Burford or Chipping Norton; much more sensible.
The fact that many homes could be built within our local villages ; and our Local Planners at CDC is conveniently overlooked.
Bourton on the Water has had major developments at the Coach and Horses site and has over 300 new homes coming from the sites behind Roman Way and off Station Road. Morton has had major developments and faces a major development at the old Fire College. Local planner can not turn down application in villages unless the National Plan gives them a reason. Oh and Burford and Chipping Norton are in Oxfordshire and outside of the Cotswold area.
[quote][p][bold]R Cotswold[/bold] wrote: CDC is not called a 'rotten borough' for nothing. This is an outrage; but the Tory councillors are too weak and mired in embracing 'The Tory' scheme. Perhaps we should recommend these houses to be built in Moreton-on-the -Marsh, Bourton -on-the -Water or to nearby Burford or Chipping Norton; much more sensible. The fact that many homes could be built within our local villages [resented by NIMBY's; CPRE [another dubious organisation]; and our Local Planners at CDC is conveniently overlooked.[/p][/quote]Bourton on the Water has had major developments at the Coach and Horses site and has over 300 new homes coming from the sites behind Roman Way and off Station Road. Morton has had major developments and faces a major development at the old Fire College. Local planner can not turn down application in villages unless the National Plan gives them a reason. Oh and Burford and Chipping Norton are in Oxfordshire and outside of the Cotswold area. blackdog27
  • Score: 7

8:34pm Tue 19 Aug 14

Jessica Rabbit says...

Susie Clark... nobody is objecting to '600 or so' homes....... we are objecting to 2,500! And this is not about Lib Dems criticising Tories... this is about local residents criticising CTC for making this decision. Please do not make presumptions about my political view as you are way off the mark and it's not relevant.
Susie Clark... nobody is objecting to '600 or so' homes....... we are objecting to 2,500! And this is not about Lib Dems criticising Tories... this is about local residents criticising CTC for making this decision. Please do not make presumptions about my political view as you are way off the mark and it's not relevant. Jessica Rabbit
  • Score: 17

9:01pm Tue 19 Aug 14

sgouri says...

Well put, Jessica Rabbit. That's exactly what at least 85% of the residents of Cirencester think about this whole debacle!
Well put, Jessica Rabbit. That's exactly what at least 85% of the residents of Cirencester think about this whole debacle! sgouri
  • Score: 7

9:03pm Tue 19 Aug 14

sgouri says...

Have you read some of the comments on the petition link? Quite revealing!
Have you read some of the comments on the petition link? Quite revealing! sgouri
  • Score: 3

10:10pm Tue 19 Aug 14

Jessica Rabbit says...

Yes I have sgouri and I signed the petition in town and I hope that it goes some way to making a difference.

Earlier I wrote CTC, it should have read CDC.... I have spent far too long criticising CTC in other posts that it is now second nature to write it!!
Yes I have sgouri and I signed the petition in town and I hope that it goes some way to making a difference. Earlier I wrote CTC, it should have read CDC.... I have spent far too long criticising CTC in other posts that it is now second nature to write it!! Jessica Rabbit
  • Score: 3

11:44pm Tue 19 Aug 14

safetyaware says...

As I understand it, something over 700 people are looking for housing in Cirencester, whether or not they currently live in Cirencester is not known. Of these, over 200 are already housed but are looking to change accommodation. That leaves somewhere in the region of 500. A housing association bought a number of unsold houses on the Kingshill South site, because they could not sell them on the open market, what happened to these? Rumour has it that people/families were brought in from Swindon. Has anybody any more details on this?
As I understand it, something over 700 people are looking for housing in Cirencester, whether or not they currently live in Cirencester is not known. Of these, over 200 are already housed but are looking to change accommodation. That leaves somewhere in the region of 500. A housing association bought a number of unsold houses on the Kingshill South site, because they could not sell them on the open market, what happened to these? Rumour has it that people/families were brought in from Swindon. Has anybody any more details on this? safetyaware
  • Score: 6

1:58pm Wed 20 Aug 14

SimpleMind says...

Not sure if someone is jumping the gun but I took a walk around the land yesterday. There is a workmans portaloo in one if the fields and some of the farm tracks which were previously just dirt appear to have had some hardcore put on them, which would make them more suitable for heavier traffic or machinery maybe?
I have also been informed that professional looking individuals with Walkie talkies can be spotted in the area late at night!
Not sure if someone is jumping the gun but I took a walk around the land yesterday. There is a workmans portaloo in one if the fields and some of the farm tracks which were previously just dirt appear to have had some hardcore put on them, which would make them more suitable for heavier traffic or machinery maybe? I have also been informed that professional looking individuals with Walkie talkies can be spotted in the area late at night! SimpleMind
  • Score: 2

8:59pm Wed 20 Aug 14

safetyaware says...

The portaloo is for the archeologists who are starting to dig exploratory trenches to look at the Roman remains. The hardcore was put down by the farmer last winter; I think it came from some buildings they had demolished. Not sure about the walkie-talkies late at night!
The portaloo is for the archeologists who are starting to dig exploratory trenches to look at the Roman remains. The hardcore was put down by the farmer last winter; I think it came from some buildings they had demolished. Not sure about the walkie-talkies late at night! safetyaware
  • Score: 1

1:08pm Thu 21 Aug 14

Fred Fred1 says...

Not enough noise is being made about this. It seems as if all opposition will be ignored and that petition will be nothing more than a mild annoyance to the plan.

I suggest that given how the Bathurst Estate have served notice on so many of its tenants at short notice and the contempt they are showing for the people of Ciren that a louder noise needs to be made. The national press - private eye etc need to be informed of the corrupt way this has been handled to line the pockets of the landowners, developers and councils. There are many comparables to the water park and the levels of underhand dealing.

I suggest boycotting the Cirencester show and its sponsors in future. This show is a parody of "The Living working countryside" when the Apsleys are merrily planning to tarmac over Grade 2 agricultural land that is excellent habitat for much wildlife.

This plan will destroy Cirencester as we know it and we need that message to be heard!
Not enough noise is being made about this. It seems as if all opposition will be ignored and that petition will be nothing more than a mild annoyance to the plan. I suggest that given how the Bathurst Estate have served notice on so many of its tenants at short notice and the contempt they are showing for the people of Ciren that a louder noise needs to be made. The national press - private eye etc need to be informed of the corrupt way this has been handled to line the pockets of the landowners, developers and councils. There are many comparables to the water park and the levels of underhand dealing. I suggest boycotting the Cirencester show and its sponsors in future. This show is a parody of "The Living working countryside" when the Apsleys are merrily planning to tarmac over Grade 2 agricultural land that is excellent habitat for much wildlife. This plan will destroy Cirencester as we know it and we need that message to be heard! Fred Fred1
  • Score: 10

2:52pm Thu 21 Aug 14

Col Mustard says...

There is a 1.5 Acre site capable of supporting 150 homes .. It is a brownfield site and a good location for town..Being disposed of by CDC.

http://www.brutonkno
wles.co.uk/component
/iproperty/?view=pro
perty&id=2575

By examining existing brownfield sites better use can be made of locations close to town negating car journeys. It requires creative thinking and a can do spirit. Small individual developments can amount to a considerable stock of new homes.

The Sheriff of Nottingham ( Bathurst) and his band of henchman ( CDC) will continue to plunder the countryside unless they are stood up to ..

Sign the Petition , boycott anything with the name Bathurst on, pressure your local supine CDC Cllr , drive them mad , bury them in email....

They might just get the point as they will want to be re-elected next year?
There is a 1.5 Acre site capable of supporting 150 homes .. It is a brownfield site and a good location for town..Being disposed of by CDC. http://www.brutonkno wles.co.uk/component /iproperty/?view=pro perty&id=2575 By examining existing brownfield sites better use can be made of locations close to town negating car journeys. It requires creative thinking and a can do spirit. Small individual developments can amount to a considerable stock of new homes. The Sheriff of Nottingham ( Bathurst) and his band of henchman ( CDC) will continue to plunder the countryside unless they are stood up to .. Sign the Petition , boycott anything with the name Bathurst on, pressure your local supine CDC Cllr , drive them mad , bury them in email.... They might just get the point as they will want to be re-elected next year? Col Mustard
  • Score: 7

4:13pm Thu 21 Aug 14

Jessica Rabbit says...

Fred Fred 1 - Great idea about contacting private eye newspaper... are you going to do this or have you?
Fred Fred 1 - Great idea about contacting private eye newspaper... are you going to do this or have you? Jessica Rabbit
  • Score: 5

9:10pm Thu 21 Aug 14

safetyaware says...

Sorry Col Mustard, 1.5 acres is only 0.6 Hectares and even at JTP density of 50 per hectare (very dense), that is only 30 dwellings, but agree on the use of more smaller areas.
Sorry Col Mustard, 1.5 acres is only 0.6 Hectares and even at JTP density of 50 per hectare (very dense), that is only 30 dwellings, but agree on the use of more smaller areas. safetyaware
  • Score: 1

7:12pm Fri 22 Aug 14

Crispin Mount says...

There is a local Masonic Lodge in Cirencester named after the Earl Bathurst
There is a local Masonic Lodge in Cirencester named after the Earl Bathurst Crispin Mount
  • Score: 3

9:15pm Fri 22 Aug 14

twoonetwo says...

its ok saying put houses here and there but then you have to look at the wider picture of can the schools cope with more children, also can our roads cope with even more traffic, just look at the new kingsmeadow site one road closed and the other one you have to play chicken to get out. I have lived in cirencester all my life and all i have seen is a steady decline.
its ok saying put houses here and there but then you have to look at the wider picture of can the schools cope with more children, also can our roads cope with even more traffic, just look at the new kingsmeadow site one road closed and the other one you have to play chicken to get out. I have lived in cirencester all my life and all i have seen is a steady decline. twoonetwo
  • Score: 2

9:53am Sat 23 Aug 14

safetyaware says...

Twoonetwo, have you signed the petition? CDC needs to assess requirement and consider the infrastructure you mention before it blandly goes ahead with more development. I know the town could do with a cinema but do we need the 9 extra shops and the student accommodation that goes with it?
Twoonetwo, have you signed the petition? CDC needs to assess requirement and consider the infrastructure you mention before it blandly goes ahead with more development. I know the town could do with a cinema but do we need the 9 extra shops and the student accommodation that goes with it? safetyaware
  • Score: 2

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