Cirencester cinema proposals are resubmitted after legal challenge

Artist's impression of the new Cirencester cinema plans

Artist's impression of the new Cirencester cinema plans

First published in News Wilts and Gloucestershire Standard: Photograph of the Author by , Reporter

AN APPLICATION for a cinema in Cirencester town centre has been resubmitted after being legally challenged by a nearby company.

In November 2013 members of Cotswold District Council’s planning committee overturned a recommendation to refuse the building of the entertainment complex, which includes a four screen cinema, six shops, four restaurants and a 110-bed hall of residence for Royal Agricultural University (RAU) students in Brewery Court, behind Castle Street.

However the application, made by Wildmoor Properties, was challenged by a nearby company, which a CDC spokesman said could not be disclosed at this point.

CDC spokesman Bob McNally said the application is a resubmission with some changes.

“The legal challenge was largely based upon the processing of the application and, having taken its own legal advice, the council has decided not to contest the challenge and has advised the applicant to re-submit the application,” he said.

Despite a lot of public support for the cinema plans, many businesses have showed concern over the plans. Some councillors and residents have also said they are worried about the building’s size quality and design.

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5:20pm Thu 10 Jul 14

MR DOBBY says...

THIS WILL MAKE THE TOWN CENTRE A NO GO AREA AT NIGHT FOR ANYONE OVER FORTY.
FULL OF AGGY STUDENTS.
THATS WHY CDC WILL NOT STOP CHARGING FOR PARKING OVER NIGHT, THEY WILL MAKE A MINT.
THIS WILL MAKE THE TOWN CENTRE A NO GO AREA AT NIGHT FOR ANYONE OVER FORTY. FULL OF AGGY STUDENTS. THATS WHY CDC WILL NOT STOP CHARGING FOR PARKING OVER NIGHT, THEY WILL MAKE A MINT. MR DOBBY
  • Score: -6

10:08pm Thu 10 Jul 14

safetyaware says...

Why is there such a short time to respond to this application. Comments have not been permitted whilst the legal challenge took place and now the plans have had to be re-submitted. Surely this is now the actual date of the application and a period of six weeks is required to allow for comment. On checking the CDC website, comments are required by 31 July - 6 weeks?
On looking at the proposed plans, the artist's impressions, one of which is shown above, are totally inapppropriate for the town. Typical 70's design that went out in the 80's so why is it even being considered? These pictures have not appeared in the printed form of the paper, why?
Mr Dobby, if 110 students park their cars in Brewery Car Park, that will cost them a fortune and where will we park our cars?
The article states that there is a lot of public support for this development, where does this come from? Nobody I have spoken to thinks so. A cinema would perhaps be nice but the last one did not survive, who is going to use these FOUR screens? Probaly not the people who think it is a good idea; they will sit at home watching their large screen TV for free.
How long has it taken Wildmore to re-develop The Kings Head - how long for this development? Either our planning department is totally enept or there is a hidden agenda! If the CDC has overturned a recommendation to refuse the building then it would appear that we are just going through the motions AGAIN because the deal is done!
Why is there such a short time to respond to this application. Comments have not been permitted whilst the legal challenge took place and now the plans have had to be re-submitted. Surely this is now the actual date of the application and a period of six weeks is required to allow for comment. On checking the CDC website, comments are required by 31 July - 6 weeks? On looking at the proposed plans, the artist's impressions, one of which is shown above, are totally inapppropriate for the town. Typical 70's design that went out in the 80's so why is it even being considered? These pictures have not appeared in the printed form of the paper, why? Mr Dobby, if 110 students park their cars in Brewery Car Park, that will cost them a fortune and where will we park our cars? The article states that there is a lot of public support for this development, where does this come from? Nobody I have spoken to thinks so. A cinema would perhaps be nice but the last one did not survive, who is going to use these FOUR screens? Probaly not the people who think it is a good idea; they will sit at home watching their large screen TV for free. How long has it taken Wildmore to re-develop The Kings Head - how long for this development? Either our planning department is totally enept or there is a hidden agenda! If the CDC has overturned a recommendation to refuse the building then it would appear that we are just going through the motions AGAIN because the deal is done! safetyaware
  • Score: -3

3:14pm Fri 11 Jul 14

Col Mustard says...

"Why is there such a short time to respond to this application."

It avoids discussion and dissent.... it is a bit rich CDC questioning the design considering some of the ghastly grotesque stuff they have approved....

Its going to get built anyway and Wildmoor will take the usual 10 years to build it.... half way through they will apply for change of use to full residential and CDC will approve it ......

So no surprises there then ......
"Why is there such a short time to respond to this application." It avoids discussion and dissent.... it is a bit rich CDC questioning the design considering some of the ghastly grotesque stuff they have approved.... Its going to get built anyway and Wildmoor will take the usual 10 years to build it.... half way through they will apply for change of use to full residential and CDC will approve it ...... So no surprises there then ...... Col Mustard
  • Score: -3

9:45am Sat 12 Jul 14

safetyaware says...

I thought it was just me being cynical a la CDC/Wildmoor! The Kings Head is still nowhere near being finished. Rumour has it that Wildmoor does not have the funds so how are they going to finance this epic?
I thought it was just me being cynical a la CDC/Wildmoor! The Kings Head is still nowhere near being finished. Rumour has it that Wildmoor does not have the funds so how are they going to finance this epic? safetyaware
  • Score: 7

10:09pm Sat 12 Jul 14

corin22 says...

I have also heard that builders have not been paid for a month, rumour or not I don't think wildmoor are at all interested in Cirencester as a town, just a cash cow. They have only just recently applied for planning permission to build toilets for the Corn hall!!
I have also heard that builders have not been paid for a month, rumour or not I don't think wildmoor are at all interested in Cirencester as a town, just a cash cow. They have only just recently applied for planning permission to build toilets for the Corn hall!! corin22
  • Score: 6

6:33am Sun 13 Jul 14

Olly Cromwell says...

Here is the de ja vu news from 8 years ago

http://www.wiltsglos
standard.co.uk/news/
792848.Developers_sh
ow_commitment_to_Cir
encester_with_move_t
o_the_town/
Here is the de ja vu news from 8 years ago http://www.wiltsglos standard.co.uk/news/ 792848.Developers_sh ow_commitment_to_Cir encester_with_move_t o_the_town/ Olly Cromwell
  • Score: 0

9:02am Mon 14 Jul 14

Bert Wilkins says...

I would love to know who disagreed with the comments in the first post. Probably everyone connected to Wildmoor, because I have yet to meet anyone in Cirenecester who welcomes the thought of 100 plus poor little rich kids rampaging round our town centre every night. When I was a town centre resident the one night a week they came into town was hell, and now we want them here every night. Some serious money must have greased palms to get this one through.
And Wildmoor. Are you kidding me? How many half finished projects do we need in this town before we realize that Wildmoor aren't man enough for the job. From word I hear when they do actually finish projects they are then terrible landlords and have a poor maintainence record. Ideal for a town centre project that quickly becomes an eyesore.
I have written to the council and offered to work with them to do some random polling to see who actually wants this in the middle of our town.
Prove to me that people do want it, because as stated, I have met literally no one. I will work with anyone they choose to canvas opinion, in the town, villages, Tescos stores etc. not surprisingly my letters to the council offering my services have gone unanswered.
Obviously all those involved are too busy being courted by Wildmoor to listen.
I would love to know who disagreed with the comments in the first post. Probably everyone connected to Wildmoor, because I have yet to meet anyone in Cirenecester who welcomes the thought of 100 plus poor little rich kids rampaging round our town centre every night. When I was a town centre resident the one night a week they came into town was hell, and now we want them here every night. Some serious money must have greased palms to get this one through. And Wildmoor. Are you kidding me? How many half finished projects do we need in this town before we realize that Wildmoor aren't man enough for the job. From word I hear when they do actually finish projects they are then terrible landlords and have a poor maintainence record. Ideal for a town centre project that quickly becomes an eyesore. I have written to the council and offered to work with them to do some random polling to see who actually wants this in the middle of our town. Prove to me that people do want it, because as stated, I have met literally no one. I will work with anyone they choose to canvas opinion, in the town, villages, Tescos stores etc. not surprisingly my letters to the council offering my services have gone unanswered. Obviously all those involved are too busy being courted by Wildmoor to listen. Bert Wilkins
  • Score: 5

11:40am Mon 14 Jul 14

Jessica Rabbit says...

I agree with you Bert and I am happy to get on board with your plan to ask the people of Cirencester for their opinions. 100+ Aggies in our town centre is going to ruin our Cotswold town.
I agree with you Bert and I am happy to get on board with your plan to ask the people of Cirencester for their opinions. 100+ Aggies in our town centre is going to ruin our Cotswold town. Jessica Rabbit
  • Score: 3

12:49pm Mon 14 Jul 14

Geoff66 says...

It is clear that Cirencester will benefit from a cinema, but that doesn't mean that it will benefit from the 100+ student bed accommodation element of these plans, yet alone the desire to place this development in the Brewery car park, and in the heart of the town.

To be truthful, why hasn't the Royal Agricultural University considered developing this accommodation up at the University itself? As surely it has the land available there to build this, yet alone more student bed accommodation. In addition, if it choose to do this, then there is no reason why the Uni couldn't rent this accommodation out to its students, which would establish a much needed form if revenue for the Uni, and also take away the increasing demands on accommodation to rent in the town itself, as well as providing accommodation on-site for students.

Uni students are all bad, i should know my brother-in-law used to be one.... but the town does have genuine fears and anxiety over the plans to accommodate, yet more students in the town centre , along with fears about how this will impact upon the town and its reputation.

- So does the new cinema plan only stack up financially if the student accommodation is included as part if this development?
- Why couldn't the cinema be built on the edge of the town, where it wouldn't necessarily impact upon the centre of the town, yet alone on current parking demands?
- and....Why oh why isn't the Uni thinking about developing a University campus fit which is fit for the future, and which is much more suitable to the needs and demands of Cirencester's residents, and which would also clearly help free up more accommodation across the town??

CDC you really need to think before you make your final decision.... is this development really in the best interests of the town?? yet alone its residents??
It is clear that Cirencester will benefit from a cinema, but that doesn't mean that it will benefit from the 100+ student bed accommodation element of these plans, yet alone the desire to place this development in the Brewery car park, and in the heart of the town. To be truthful, why hasn't the Royal Agricultural University considered developing this accommodation up at the University itself? As surely it has the land available there to build this, yet alone more student bed accommodation. In addition, if it choose to do this, then there is no reason why the Uni couldn't rent this accommodation out to its students, which would establish a much needed form if revenue for the Uni, and also take away the increasing demands on accommodation to rent in the town itself, as well as providing accommodation on-site for students. Uni students are all bad, i should know my brother-in-law used to be one.... but the town does have genuine fears and anxiety over the plans to accommodate, yet more students in the town centre , along with fears about how this will impact upon the town and its reputation. - So does the new cinema plan only stack up financially if the student accommodation is included as part if this development? - Why couldn't the cinema be built on the edge of the town, where it wouldn't necessarily impact upon the centre of the town, yet alone on current parking demands? - and....Why oh why isn't the Uni thinking about developing a University campus fit which is fit for the future, and which is much more suitable to the needs and demands of Cirencester's residents, and which would also clearly help free up more accommodation across the town?? CDC you really need to think before you make your final decision.... is this development really in the best interests of the town?? yet alone its residents?? Geoff66
  • Score: 1

2:29pm Mon 14 Jul 14

Geoff66 says...

Whoops a bit of a typo there...that should have read "Uni students aren't all bad, i should know my brother-in-law used to be one..."
Whoops a bit of a typo there...that should have read "Uni students aren't all bad, i should know my brother-in-law used to be one..." Geoff66
  • Score: -1

6:08pm Mon 14 Jul 14

MR DOBBY says...

WHY NOT BUILD OPPOSITE UNI WHERE THEY WANT TO PUT UP 2000 PLUS HOUES.
WHY NOT BUILD OPPOSITE UNI WHERE THEY WANT TO PUT UP 2000 PLUS HOUES. MR DOBBY
  • Score: 5

11:18am Tue 15 Jul 14

Rex Cooper says...

Surely the best place for student accomodation is at or near the university.
I suspect that capital and income for CDC is at the heart of this decision.
But all of this fuss is a bit late - where were you all when it was first mooted and decided ? It'll be the same with the Chesterton development. People will get agitated when its too late and when CDC is off the hook. Final thought - the cinema is a trojan horse.
Surely the best place for student accomodation is at or near the university. I suspect that capital and income for CDC is at the heart of this decision. But all of this fuss is a bit late - where were you all when it was first mooted and decided ? It'll be the same with the Chesterton development. People will get agitated when its too late and when CDC is off the hook. Final thought - the cinema is a trojan horse. Rex Cooper
  • Score: 2

2:38am Thu 17 Jul 14

Bert Wilkins says...

Rex. I think you will find the same people have been campaigning for a long while. The original public hearing was a whitewash where all comments were put across very well and none were answered, yet the proposal was still pushed through. I gather from people I know who attended, the whole affair was most undemocratic, but that is subjective, granted.
I myself had written to the council a long while ago, and got a written reply telling me that pretty much, thanks for your questions, but tough, it's happening anyway, don't come looking to us for any sympathy. At this point I moved out of town, as it was clear to me, joe public were not of any concern to the council.
I feel for anyone left in town centre residency if this student accommodation becomes reality, it will become like the Cotswold Bronx in town at night.
Rex. I think you will find the same people have been campaigning for a long while. The original public hearing was a whitewash where all comments were put across very well and none were answered, yet the proposal was still pushed through. I gather from people I know who attended, the whole affair was most undemocratic, but that is subjective, granted. I myself had written to the council a long while ago, and got a written reply telling me that pretty much, thanks for your questions, but tough, it's happening anyway, don't come looking to us for any sympathy. At this point I moved out of town, as it was clear to me, joe public were not of any concern to the council. I feel for anyone left in town centre residency if this student accommodation becomes reality, it will become like the Cotswold Bronx in town at night. Bert Wilkins
  • Score: 0

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