Town Council plans to make Cirencester's Roman Amphitheatre a vibrant part of the community

Wilts and Gloucestershire Standard: Cllr Joe Harris (left) and Cllr Nigel Robbins at the Roman Amphitheatre in Cirencester Cllr Joe Harris (left) and Cllr Nigel Robbins at the Roman Amphitheatre in Cirencester

A NEGLECTED historical landmark in Cirencester is soon become a vibrant part of the community.

The Roman Amphitheatre, based near Chesterton and only a ten minute walk from Cirencester town centre, has been sitting unused for years.

Built in the early 2nd century with a capacity of 8,000 people, it remains one of the largest Roman amphitheatres in Britain.

It was a prominent part of the Roman city of Corinium, now Cirencester, which was then the second largest and most important city in Britain, after London.

The amphitheatre is often referred to as “hard to find” but Cirencester Town Council plans to change that with a brand new masterplan.

A footpath will be created from the Corinium Museum, Querns Wood will be opened as a community woodland and an eco centre will be created for schools and community groups to use.

“The amphitheatre is a strategically important green space,”said town council chief executive Andrew Tubb.

“We’ve been working for quite a while now with various stake holders on this plan. We plan to have gateways into the complex connecting to the town as well as an education zone, adventure zone and discovery zone where visitors can explore spaces with archaeological importance.”

“We’re coming back in July with the final draft but need to make a timeline for delivery, costings and more information on funding.”

The project masterplan also includes creating an event space at the Amphitheatre, temporary event parking, a new and appealing entrance to the complex, and opening up the nearby Querns Wood for volunteering opportunities.

The Whereat Trail, named after former Cirencester mayor Norman Whereat, will be built as a pedestrian route from the Corinium Museum to the Amphitheatre complex to make the area easier to find.

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1:55pm Thu 19 Jun 14

Geoff66 says...

It is about time something was made of the amphitheatre...it has been such a wasted opportunity, and for far too long Cirencester Town Council (CTC) has failed to make the most of this asset.

The question which i suppose needs to be asked is why now?, but perhaps more importantly, why exactly has it taken this long for CTC to do something about it?

Cirencester should be celebrating and making the most of its historic Roman past, yet alone it's importance in the Cotswolds, but other than having the Museum, which seems to be struggling at the moment, Cirencester makes little effort to celebrate its past and utilise what it has.

- why are there no information boards displayed around the town centre to help demonstrate what was once here, and its importance of the town in Britain's Roman history? (Second in importance to London)
- where is the sign at the Forum car park celebrating the finding of the Hare mosaic, and informing people that it is on view at the museum?
- why are there no information/ display boards telling the story of Cirencester (Corinium) and its role in the Cotswolds, yet alone its connection to other sites located around the Cotswolds
- why has Cirencester failed to make the most of its historic past, and yet other sites have excelled in making themselves tourist centres and most go places?

It is about time something was done with the amphitheatre, in order to make this much more of an important and integral feature of the town, instead of it being an area which is under utilised, and used only by dog walkers and the more undesirable elements of the community.

Just a thought, but rather than call it the Whereat trail, surely that should be the "Where's.it.at" trail. I will cross my fingers that for once the Council will actually do something and implement some significant plans to utilise this much wasted resource, and in order to make it a much improved and crucial venue for the town and hopefully an important venue for local events and a new location for some of the town's festivals. Since let's not forget, this was the ultimate purpose of the amphitheatre in the very first place!!!!

About time CDC, now lets see some action
It is about time something was made of the amphitheatre...it has been such a wasted opportunity, and for far too long Cirencester Town Council (CTC) has failed to make the most of this asset. The question which i suppose needs to be asked is why now?, but perhaps more importantly, why exactly has it taken this long for CTC to do something about it? Cirencester should be celebrating and making the most of its historic Roman past, yet alone it's importance in the Cotswolds, but other than having the Museum, which seems to be struggling at the moment, Cirencester makes little effort to celebrate its past and utilise what it has. - why are there no information boards displayed around the town centre to help demonstrate what was once here, and its importance of the town in Britain's Roman history? (Second in importance to London) - where is the sign at the Forum car park celebrating the finding of the Hare mosaic, and informing people that it is on view at the museum? - why are there no information/ display boards telling the story of Cirencester (Corinium) and its role in the Cotswolds, yet alone its connection to other sites located around the Cotswolds - why has Cirencester failed to make the most of its historic past, and yet other sites have excelled in making themselves tourist centres and most go places? It is about time something was done with the amphitheatre, in order to make this much more of an important and integral feature of the town, instead of it being an area which is under utilised, and used only by dog walkers and the more undesirable elements of the community. Just a thought, but rather than call it the Whereat trail, surely that should be the "Where's.it.at" trail. I will cross my fingers that for once the Council will actually do something and implement some significant plans to utilise this much wasted resource, and in order to make it a much improved and crucial venue for the town and hopefully an important venue for local events and a new location for some of the town's festivals. Since let's not forget, this was the ultimate purpose of the amphitheatre in the very first place!!!! About time CDC, now lets see some action Geoff66
  • Score: 11

3:11pm Thu 19 Jun 14

Cotswold Lad says...

What about the neglected WWII air raid shelter? Surely with all that's going on around D Day, WWI etc the Town Council could spare a few bob to help out the volunteers who keep both the air raid shelter and nearby cottage going?
There is a feeling that "if it ain't Roman, then we don't care" - but our recent history is arguably more important.
What about the neglected WWII air raid shelter? Surely with all that's going on around D Day, WWI etc the Town Council could spare a few bob to help out the volunteers who keep both the air raid shelter and nearby cottage going? There is a feeling that "if it ain't Roman, then we don't care" - but our recent history is arguably more important. Cotswold Lad
  • Score: 9

3:21pm Thu 19 Jun 14

mr fleas says...

When folk say it isn't easy to find, they don't mean there's no clearly designated footpath from the town to it, they mean there isn't a car park within shuffling distance.
Of course, in this inclusive and equal rights age, there should be a car park within shuffling distance. That's how you make money to fund it.
When folk say it isn't easy to find, they don't mean there's no clearly designated footpath from the town to it, they mean there isn't a car park within shuffling distance. Of course, in this inclusive and equal rights age, there should be a car park within shuffling distance. That's how you make money to fund it. mr fleas
  • Score: 1

3:50pm Thu 19 Jun 14

Geoff66 says...

Sorry Cotswolds Lad....but i think you are missing the point somewhat about an historic and major period in the life and times of Cirencester.

In addition, surely you should be focusing more on what the long term future of the air raid shelter is going to be, since i understand that the Memorial Hospital site is part of CDC's housing strategy plan/ 5 year land use strategy, and it is being looked at as a site for 11, or is it 13 new homes. Makes you wonder whether it will last, as yet another neglected landmark in Cirencester?

Mr. fleas ... i tend to agree with you about the footpath, as whilst clearly it is essential to get people to this interesting and important venue, i am sure that most people will want to get there by car, only to find that it situated on a busy residential street, with little in the way of potential on-street car parking, for the multitude of visitors which CTC hope to attract.

Perhaps CTC are thinking about getting rid of the Scout hut to make way for a new, dedicated car park? Well at least that way hopefully something would be done to permanently do something about making more of the monument...which has again be neglected and become an forgotten relic of Cirencester's past

CTC..... come on it is about time you took some action to really look at the long term future of the town and at all of its assets, not just looking at regenerating the Market Place, with a questionable and less than perfect design, and start looking at how we can make Cirencester an important "Jewel in the Cotswolds" once more, as well as a place where visitors will want to come and visit and explore the Cotswolds.........ra
ther than just concentrating on working far too closely with CDC, and filling our fields and town centre sites with unwanted and unnecessary housing.

Poor old Cirencester...too little too late, and clearly a beautiful Market Town which is soon to be spoilt by too much housing, and planners who want to see us turn into a small scale Swindon.
Sorry Cotswolds Lad....but i think you are missing the point somewhat about an historic and major period in the life and times of Cirencester. In addition, surely you should be focusing more on what the long term future of the air raid shelter is going to be, since i understand that the Memorial Hospital site is part of CDC's housing strategy plan/ 5 year land use strategy, and it is being looked at as a site for 11, or is it 13 new homes. Makes you wonder whether it will last, as yet another neglected landmark in Cirencester? Mr. fleas ... i tend to agree with you about the footpath, as whilst clearly it is essential to get people to this interesting and important venue, i am sure that most people will want to get there by car, only to find that it situated on a busy residential street, with little in the way of potential on-street car parking, for the multitude of visitors which CTC hope to attract. Perhaps CTC are thinking about getting rid of the Scout hut to make way for a new, dedicated car park? Well at least that way hopefully something would be done to permanently do something about making more of the monument...which has again be neglected and become an forgotten relic of Cirencester's past CTC..... come on it is about time you took some action to really look at the long term future of the town and at all of its assets, not just looking at regenerating the Market Place, with a questionable and less than perfect design, and start looking at how we can make Cirencester an important "Jewel in the Cotswolds" once more, as well as a place where visitors will want to come and visit and explore the Cotswolds.........ra ther than just concentrating on working far too closely with CDC, and filling our fields and town centre sites with unwanted and unnecessary housing. Poor old Cirencester...too little too late, and clearly a beautiful Market Town which is soon to be spoilt by too much housing, and planners who want to see us turn into a small scale Swindon. Geoff66
  • Score: 2

5:35pm Thu 19 Jun 14

MR DOBBY says...

WHEN THE TOWN COUNCIL ARE ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT, IT TAKES TEN TIMES LONGER TO GET ANYTHING DONE.
AND THEY EXPECT YOU TO PAY MORE FOR SOMTHING WHICH BELONGS TO OTHER PEOPLE WHO SHOULD BE PAYING.
WHEN THE TOWN COUNCIL ARE ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT, IT TAKES TEN TIMES LONGER TO GET ANYTHING DONE. AND THEY EXPECT YOU TO PAY MORE FOR SOMTHING WHICH BELONGS TO OTHER PEOPLE WHO SHOULD BE PAYING. MR DOBBY
  • Score: 0

7:48pm Thu 19 Jun 14

Geoff66 says...

Mr. DOBBY.... unfortunately i believe Cirencester Town Council are ill advised and lack focus and direction. They continue to bang on a broken-drum rather than look at different options and at new way forwards. I agree that they take far too long to get things done, but a lot of this is down a lack of direction and poor leadership and management.

You only have to look at the town's market to see where they are completely missing the point. What on earth has happened to our Charter-markets, and why are these such dismal affairs. They are an utter waste of time, lack decent stalls to attract people, and have completely ruined our reputation as a market-town, yet alone a town with the prestigious Charter-market title . Why on earth the Market manager, yes we do have one, is still in post beggars to belief. Just get someone else in with new ideas and new approaches, what have you got to lose??

CTC - our streets our dirty and tired, our car parking charges mean that we are failing to attract visitors and tourist, and now perhaps even shoppers, who are now utilising places like Swindon, Cheltenham and Gloucester. The shopping experience in the town has been damaged by an abundance of Charity stores, Estate agents and endless Coffee shops, and if you move away from the Market Place, then shoppers are expected to enter streets which fail to impress and which are less than desirable.

The town is now a sorry state, and is no longer a shinning beacon of the Cotswolds. In fact, as far as i am concerned, we long ago lost that title a "Jewel of the Cotswolds" and now this is impacting upon our tourism, yet alone the long term sustainability and viability of the town itself.

Instead of worrying about some of the small scale problems, CTC you really need to be looking at the town, and at what residents really want and need from their town . I am no longer sure who you really represent these days, as it is certainly not someone like me and other local residents, who really care about their town and who have seen it neglected for far too long, and who are now struggling to see whether there is really a real way forward to tackle some of the rot, and in making a much needed difference to the town.

Quite frankly, if you don't act soon, and come up with plans which have been developed in consultation with local residents, and which have been approved by local residents, then what is your purpose. Get a grip CTC and grow some B###s !!
Mr. DOBBY.... unfortunately i believe Cirencester Town Council are ill advised and lack focus and direction. They continue to bang on a broken-drum rather than look at different options and at new way forwards. I agree that they take far too long to get things done, but a lot of this is down a lack of direction and poor leadership and management. You only have to look at the town's market to see where they are completely missing the point. What on earth has happened to our Charter-markets, and why are these such dismal affairs. They are an utter waste of time, lack decent stalls to attract people, and have completely ruined our reputation as a market-town, yet alone a town with the prestigious Charter-market title . Why on earth the Market manager, yes we do have one, is still in post beggars to belief. Just get someone else in with new ideas and new approaches, what have you got to lose?? CTC - our streets our dirty and tired, our car parking charges mean that we are failing to attract visitors and tourist, and now perhaps even shoppers, who are now utilising places like Swindon, Cheltenham and Gloucester. The shopping experience in the town has been damaged by an abundance of Charity stores, Estate agents and endless Coffee shops, and if you move away from the Market Place, then shoppers are expected to enter streets which fail to impress and which are less than desirable. The town is now a sorry state, and is no longer a shinning beacon of the Cotswolds. In fact, as far as i am concerned, we long ago lost that title a "Jewel of the Cotswolds" and now this is impacting upon our tourism, yet alone the long term sustainability and viability of the town itself. Instead of worrying about some of the small scale problems, CTC you really need to be looking at the town, and at what residents really want and need from their town . I am no longer sure who you really represent these days, as it is certainly not someone like me and other local residents, who really care about their town and who have seen it neglected for far too long, and who are now struggling to see whether there is really a real way forward to tackle some of the rot, and in making a much needed difference to the town. Quite frankly, if you don't act soon, and come up with plans which have been developed in consultation with local residents, and which have been approved by local residents, then what is your purpose. Get a grip CTC and grow some B###s !! Geoff66
  • Score: 4

10:34pm Thu 19 Jun 14

Rex Cooper says...

You keep banging on about the town council. Their council tax receipts only allow then to employ a man and a dog. If you want to improve Cirencester it means taking on Cotswold District Council and Gloucestershire County Council - thats where all the money goes - and not enough comes back to Cirencester
You keep banging on about the town council. Their council tax receipts only allow then to employ a man and a dog. If you want to improve Cirencester it means taking on Cotswold District Council and Gloucestershire County Council - thats where all the money goes - and not enough comes back to Cirencester Rex Cooper
  • Score: -2

10:34pm Thu 19 Jun 14

Rex Cooper says...

You keep banging on about the town council. Their council tax receipts only allow then to employ a man and a dog. If you want to improve Cirencester it means taking on Cotswold District Council and Gloucestershire County Council - thats where all the money goes - and not enough comes back to Cirencester
You keep banging on about the town council. Their council tax receipts only allow then to employ a man and a dog. If you want to improve Cirencester it means taking on Cotswold District Council and Gloucestershire County Council - thats where all the money goes - and not enough comes back to Cirencester Rex Cooper
  • Score: -2

11:14pm Thu 19 Jun 14

Geoff66 says...

Rex....that's because they are appalling and they have and continue to fail to do anything.

Perhaps it is time that our local town councillors begun to bow their heads in shame, because they have, and continue to, fail their electorate, and it is time that real and probing questions are asked of our Town Council and its officers and staff.

To be truthful, What, and exactly Who do they now represent??
Rex....that's because they are appalling and they have and continue to fail to do anything. Perhaps it is time that our local town councillors begun to bow their heads in shame, because they have, and continue to, fail their electorate, and it is time that real and probing questions are asked of our Town Council and its officers and staff. To be truthful, What, and exactly Who do they now represent?? Geoff66
  • Score: 4

6:52am Fri 20 Jun 14

Olly Cromwell says...

Rex is correct - people should be turning their fire on Tory-led Cotswold District Council who are solely responsible for high car parking charges in Cirencester. £10million of 'profit' has been made since 2006 but none of this money has found its way back to enhance the town's infrastructure.

Instead, a cabal of out of town Tory CDC Councillors succeed in capping the Council Tax on their own Band H properties courtesy of a cross-subsidy from the Cirencester motorist.

When does the revolution begin?
Rex is correct - people should be turning their fire on Tory-led Cotswold District Council who are solely responsible for high car parking charges in Cirencester. £10million of 'profit' has been made since 2006 but none of this money has found its way back to enhance the town's infrastructure. Instead, a cabal of out of town Tory CDC Councillors succeed in capping the Council Tax on their own Band H properties courtesy of a cross-subsidy from the Cirencester motorist. When does the revolution begin? Olly Cromwell
  • Score: -4

11:43am Fri 20 Jun 14

Ciren_Resident says...

It never ceases to amaze me that Olly Cromwell and his Lib Dem friends somehow find a way of turning any local issue around to start pointing the finger at CDC over parking charges in Cirencester. Huge YAWN!!
It never ceases to amaze me that Olly Cromwell and his Lib Dem friends somehow find a way of turning any local issue around to start pointing the finger at CDC over parking charges in Cirencester. Huge YAWN!! Ciren_Resident
  • Score: 6

1:03pm Fri 20 Jun 14

joe.harris says...

In response to Cotswold Lad the Air Raid shelter is an asset owned by CDC, for the last few years Cirencester Town Council have given money to the Living Memory Historical association who run the museum in Sheep Street and the Air Raid Shelter

The question I beg is why haven't Cotswold District Council used the £10,000,000 profit from parking charges to invest in Cirencester's historic buildings such as the Air Raid Shelter, Memorial Hospital and the Old Station?

Geoff, if you think things are so bad why don't you stand for election? You've made several inaccuracies about what that Town Council are responsible for such as street cleaning (CDC), and the lack of diversity on the High Street due to the lack of a local plan (CDC).

The Town Councillors aren't paid and choose to take the role voluntarily so if you think you can do a better job, come and get involved.

Joe
In response to Cotswold Lad the Air Raid shelter is an asset owned by CDC, for the last few years Cirencester Town Council have given money to the Living Memory Historical association who run the museum in Sheep Street and the Air Raid Shelter The question I beg is why haven't Cotswold District Council used the £10,000,000 profit from parking charges to invest in Cirencester's historic buildings such as the Air Raid Shelter, Memorial Hospital and the Old Station? Geoff, if you think things are so bad why don't you stand for election? You've made several inaccuracies about what that Town Council are responsible for such as street cleaning (CDC), and the lack of diversity on the High Street due to the lack of a local plan (CDC). The Town Councillors aren't paid and choose to take the role voluntarily so if you think you can do a better job, come and get involved. Joe joe.harris
  • Score: -1

2:53pm Fri 20 Jun 14

Geoff66 says...

Joe.... Sorry Mr. Mayor, but you are oh so wrong. I am not blaming you for our dirty streets, nor am i expecting CTC to be out there picking up the rubbish. BUT i do know that it is the role of the Town Council to have a vision, and a series of strategies, as well as a Community Plan which focuses on ensuring the long term sustainability and viability of the town.

One of these aims surely it to help support a vision and brand for the town centre, yet alone the town as a whole, and to work with a wide range of partners, agencies and businesses, to help support, promote and implement this vision. This is where you continue to fail, as it is clear that this vision is not being implemented.

Cirencester needs a vision, along with a series of important strategies to support its long term development and it's future, as well as to enable the town to meet the needs of local people, visitors and all those using the town and its services and amenities. Surely one of the important roles which the town council should be playing, is to help orchestrate this and to ensure that all of the partners, agencies and businesses are fulfilling their roles and responsibilities. Yes we know CDC plays a major role in the town, but lets not forget the town council's role, nor that of our local councillors.

PS there is no way i would want to become a local councillor...your damned if you do, and damned if you don't. But don't shoot the messengers when they point out some of the failings in this town, or the lack of progress being achieved.

Clearly the town council, CDC and Gloucestershire County Council are all collectively failing this town and its residents...and i don't think there is really any argument in this statement. I would also like noted that i am not bashing any one party, as to be truthful, you are all as bad as one another....lets try taking the Politics out of politics and get on and bring about change
Joe.... Sorry Mr. Mayor, but you are oh so wrong. I am not blaming you for our dirty streets, nor am i expecting CTC to be out there picking up the rubbish. BUT i do know that it is the role of the Town Council to have a vision, and a series of strategies, as well as a Community Plan which focuses on ensuring the long term sustainability and viability of the town. One of these aims surely it to help support a vision and brand for the town centre, yet alone the town as a whole, and to work with a wide range of partners, agencies and businesses, to help support, promote and implement this vision. This is where you continue to fail, as it is clear that this vision is not being implemented. Cirencester needs a vision, along with a series of important strategies to support its long term development and it's future, as well as to enable the town to meet the needs of local people, visitors and all those using the town and its services and amenities. Surely one of the important roles which the town council should be playing, is to help orchestrate this and to ensure that all of the partners, agencies and businesses are fulfilling their roles and responsibilities. Yes we know CDC plays a major role in the town, but lets not forget the town council's role, nor that of our local councillors. PS there is no way i would want to become a local councillor...your damned if you do, and damned if you don't. But don't shoot the messengers when they point out some of the failings in this town, or the lack of progress being achieved. Clearly the town council, CDC and Gloucestershire County Council are all collectively failing this town and its residents...and i don't think there is really any argument in this statement. I would also like noted that i am not bashing any one party, as to be truthful, you are all as bad as one another....lets try taking the Politics out of politics and get on and bring about change Geoff66
  • Score: 3

6:14pm Fri 20 Jun 14

Crispin Mount says...

"All politics is local" said Senator Tip O'Neill in 1935 and he was right.

Visions cost money - unless you are William Blake - so wise up Geoff.
"All politics is local" said Senator Tip O'Neill in 1935 and he was right. Visions cost money - unless you are William Blake - so wise up Geoff. Crispin Mount
  • Score: -4

6:04pm Sun 22 Jun 14

MR DOBBY says...

TAKE A LONG HARD LOOK AT THE CAPITAL OF THE COTSWOLDS ( WHAT A JOKE ).
JOE HARRIS AND CO ALWAYS BLAME CDC FOR EVERYTHING, ITS ABOUT TIME CDC AND CTC WORK TOGETHER TO PUT THINGS RIGHT.
WE ARE PAYING FOR A BETTER SERVICE FROM BOTH.
ALL WANT VOTING OUT, PAYED OR NOT.
KNOW COME BACK WITH MORE EXCUSES TO BLAME EVERYONE YOU TOOK THE JOB.
TAKE A LONG HARD LOOK AT THE CAPITAL OF THE COTSWOLDS ( WHAT A JOKE ). JOE HARRIS AND CO ALWAYS BLAME CDC FOR EVERYTHING, ITS ABOUT TIME CDC AND CTC WORK TOGETHER TO PUT THINGS RIGHT. WE ARE PAYING FOR A BETTER SERVICE FROM BOTH. ALL WANT VOTING OUT, PAYED OR NOT. KNOW COME BACK WITH MORE EXCUSES TO BLAME EVERYONE YOU TOOK THE JOB. MR DOBBY
  • Score: 1

3:54pm Mon 23 Jun 14

Jessica Rabbit says...

Am I the only one who thinks this could potentially be a waste of money?? All the amphitheatre needs is a few signposts pointing people in the right direction and a few events to be held there... A car park is not necessary either.. it is a 10 minute walk from time for those of average fitness and those with accessibility issues can park in the scout hut car park which is supposed to be for the amphi.... this is not advertised though as there is worry too many people will park there! Querns wood is disgraceful, no matter what happens people will still light fires, smash bottles and cause a mess there. I have seen improvements made over the years and within weeks it is trashed again. It is awful. The best way to get people in is to cut the grass!! If the grass was cut tourists would be able to see the totem pole entrance to the wood to be able to find their way out to walk back over the hospital bridge. Last week I was approached by many people wanting to find their way back to the caravan park via the hospital. I had to walk some people to the opening of the wood as there was no way they could find it behind metres of overgrown grass and bushes! So, if you want more people to visit this place start by cutting the grass! Also, dog walkers come here everyday, year after year and tidy up litter left and appreciate the place... so please remember that when you state that 'just dog walkers' use it.
Am I the only one who thinks this could potentially be a waste of money?? All the amphitheatre needs is a few signposts pointing people in the right direction and a few events to be held there... A car park is not necessary either.. it is a 10 minute walk from time for those of average fitness and those with accessibility issues can park in the scout hut car park which is supposed to be for the amphi.... this is not advertised though as there is worry too many people will park there! Querns wood is disgraceful, no matter what happens people will still light fires, smash bottles and cause a mess there. I have seen improvements made over the years and within weeks it is trashed again. It is awful. The best way to get people in is to cut the grass!! If the grass was cut tourists would be able to see the totem pole entrance to the wood to be able to find their way out to walk back over the hospital bridge. Last week I was approached by many people wanting to find their way back to the caravan park via the hospital. I had to walk some people to the opening of the wood as there was no way they could find it behind metres of overgrown grass and bushes! So, if you want more people to visit this place start by cutting the grass! Also, dog walkers come here everyday, year after year and tidy up litter left and appreciate the place... so please remember that when you state that 'just dog walkers' use it. Jessica Rabbit
  • Score: 3

5:54pm Mon 23 Jun 14

Rex Cooper says...

Geoff 66.
If the town council took any notice of your unrealistic expectations of them and improved their efforts by 500% it would not have a noticeable effect on our town.
All the money, resources, decisions, influence in this country is miles away from local people at Corporate,District,C
ounty,Regional, National level. "Localism" and "big society" are meaningless without money coming back to local organisations. Town councils nationwide are cinderellas who take a lot of stick undeservedly
You are wasting your energy on the small fry - and by the way your excuses for deciding to stay on the sidelines and moan rather than do something are unconvincing. All you do is p..s off those who are trying to do something.
By the way,thank goodness the ampitheatre is getting some attention - a treasured asset
Geoff 66. If the town council took any notice of your unrealistic expectations of them and improved their efforts by 500% it would not have a noticeable effect on our town. All the money, resources, decisions, influence in this country is miles away from local people at Corporate,District,C ounty,Regional, National level. "Localism" and "big society" are meaningless without money coming back to local organisations. Town councils nationwide are cinderellas who take a lot of stick undeservedly You are wasting your energy on the small fry - and by the way your excuses for deciding to stay on the sidelines and moan rather than do something are unconvincing. All you do is p..s off those who are trying to do something. By the way,thank goodness the ampitheatre is getting some attention - a treasured asset Rex Cooper
  • Score: 0

6:08pm Mon 23 Jun 14

Geoff66 says...

Rex..... read it and weep, just read it and weep matey http://cirencester.g
ov.uk/component/zoo/
item/community-plan?
Itemid=157
Rex..... read it and weep, just read it and weep matey http://cirencester.g ov.uk/component/zoo/ item/community-plan? Itemid=157 Geoff66
  • Score: 0

2:59pm Tue 24 Jun 14

joe.harris says...

Well you know where I am and my door is always open.
Come and discuss things with me and we'll see what we can do rather than moan about them anonymously.

CALM DOWN MR DOBBY! THINGS AREN'T THAT BAD!
Well you know where I am and my door is always open. Come and discuss things with me and we'll see what we can do rather than moan about them anonymously. CALM DOWN MR DOBBY! THINGS AREN'T THAT BAD! joe.harris
  • Score: 0

4:06pm Tue 24 Jun 14

MR DOBBY says...

THINGS NOT THAT BAD, HAVE YOU OPENNED YOUR EYES LATELY.
CIREN AND AREA IS A MESS AND GETTING WORSE BY THE DAY.
IF YOU CANT SEE THAT THEN WE HAVE A BIGGER PROBLEM.
THINGS NOT THAT BAD, HAVE YOU OPENNED YOUR EYES LATELY. CIREN AND AREA IS A MESS AND GETTING WORSE BY THE DAY. IF YOU CANT SEE THAT THEN WE HAVE A BIGGER PROBLEM. MR DOBBY
  • Score: 3

5:06pm Tue 24 Jun 14

Jessica Rabbit says...

Cirencester is a mess and I expect it will get worse. At least Mr Tony Curry takes some interest in the town... He mows the roundabouts at the weekends by himself, in his own time as he is that disgusted with the overgrown state of them... He hires a ride-on mower and works hard free of charge.. CTC you should be ashamed. Mr Curry should be commended for his hard work but I expect the political brigade on here will all slate him, they will look at his party not him as a person.

So... When is CTC going to mow the amphi? They can't expect Mr Curry to mow that too.... It is an overgrown mess and not a tourist attraction right now! Sort it out please.
Cirencester is a mess and I expect it will get worse. At least Mr Tony Curry takes some interest in the town... He mows the roundabouts at the weekends by himself, in his own time as he is that disgusted with the overgrown state of them... He hires a ride-on mower and works hard free of charge.. CTC you should be ashamed. Mr Curry should be commended for his hard work but I expect the political brigade on here will all slate him, they will look at his party not him as a person. So... When is CTC going to mow the amphi? They can't expect Mr Curry to mow that too.... It is an overgrown mess and not a tourist attraction right now! Sort it out please. Jessica Rabbit
  • Score: 5

5:21pm Tue 24 Jun 14

Jessica Rabbit says...

http://cirencester.g
ov.uk/component/zoo/
item/community-plan?
Itemid=157

I love the part about safer routes to school.... Whoever had this idea of including this section overlooked the fact that there is a dual-carriageway allowing drivers to travel up to 70mph right alongside the school footpath to Deer Park. I know of NO OTHER dual-carriageway that allows this... It is disgraceful and it will take the death of a school child or a group of school children to implement a 40mph limit on that stretch of road.

So.... CTC I think your safer route to school section is complete and utter codswallop and you need to get out your office and walk that path so you realise IT IS NOT SAFE. I have spent 10 years on this subject, writing to CTC, CDC and the Highways and their response (and yes, this is true) is that the cycle path will protect those on the footpath... so, stuff the cyclist heh! You couldn't make it up!
http://cirencester.g ov.uk/component/zoo/ item/community-plan? Itemid=157 I love the part about safer routes to school.... Whoever had this idea of including this section overlooked the fact that there is a dual-carriageway allowing drivers to travel up to 70mph right alongside the school footpath to Deer Park. I know of NO OTHER dual-carriageway that allows this... It is disgraceful and it will take the death of a school child or a group of school children to implement a 40mph limit on that stretch of road. So.... CTC I think your safer route to school section is complete and utter codswallop and you need to get out your office and walk that path so you realise IT IS NOT SAFE. I have spent 10 years on this subject, writing to CTC, CDC and the Highways and their response (and yes, this is true) is that the cycle path will protect those on the footpath... so, stuff the cyclist heh! You couldn't make it up! Jessica Rabbit
  • Score: 4

9:08pm Tue 24 Jun 14

Rex Cooper says...

Jessica Rabbit wrote:
Cirencester is a mess and I expect it will get worse. At least Mr Tony Curry takes some interest in the town... He mows the roundabouts at the weekends by himself, in his own time as he is that disgusted with the overgrown state of them... He hires a ride-on mower and works hard free of charge.. CTC you should be ashamed. Mr Curry should be commended for his hard work but I expect the political brigade on here will all slate him, they will look at his party not him as a person.

So... When is CTC going to mow the amphi? They can't expect Mr Curry to mow that too.... It is an overgrown mess and not a tourist attraction right now! Sort it out please.
Geoff66 - Why don't you take a leaf out of Tony Curry's book and actually do something rather than just exercise your typing finger ( don't tell me - you've been there,done that ! ) - and why not take up Joe Harris's invitation to go and discuss your concerns with him
[quote][p][bold]Jessica Rabbit[/bold] wrote: Cirencester is a mess and I expect it will get worse. At least Mr Tony Curry takes some interest in the town... He mows the roundabouts at the weekends by himself, in his own time as he is that disgusted with the overgrown state of them... He hires a ride-on mower and works hard free of charge.. CTC you should be ashamed. Mr Curry should be commended for his hard work but I expect the political brigade on here will all slate him, they will look at his party not him as a person. So... When is CTC going to mow the amphi? They can't expect Mr Curry to mow that too.... It is an overgrown mess and not a tourist attraction right now! Sort it out please.[/p][/quote]Geoff66 - Why don't you take a leaf out of Tony Curry's book and actually do something rather than just exercise your typing finger ( don't tell me - you've been there,done that ! ) - and why not take up Joe Harris's invitation to go and discuss your concerns with him Rex Cooper
  • Score: 0

11:32pm Tue 24 Jun 14

Geoff66 says...

Rex.....well actually i do, so bad luck, plus I don't see the point of talking to Joe, as i have previously had a discussion with him regarding some of my concerns for the town.

Rex...sorry but it isn't exactly rocket science to see some of the problems which are facing this town, nor is it impossible to come up with some plans and solutions to help tackle them. Personally i believe in the power of the community to get on and do things, as when communities own the issues and are part of the solutions, then things get done. Perhaps this is why i get on and do things and lend people a helping hand, and go out of my way for my friends and neighbours

However, you seem to keep wanting me to do more, and to stop having a go at Cirencester Town Council (CTC), but i do get involved and i do my bit, which is more than many people do, and surely it is my democratic right, if i so choose, to comment and moan about their lack of progress and what they are failing to achieve. Too many people are eager to attack CDC at every opportunity, like yourself, but CTC, is suppose to have a role to play, and unfortunately it is clear for all to see, that it is failing to address issues which are key to many of the town's residents, or to ensure that their partners, CDC and Gloucestershire County Council, yet alone a range of local partnerships, key to the town and it's future, get on and tackle key issues, and work collaboratively to achieve this. Why isn't CTC reminding key partners of their responsibilities? and ensuring and monitoring the progress of these developments and improvements?

Rex.....clearly you and i will never see eye to eye, and to be quite truthful, i am no longer interested in your comments or your personal attacks of myself. At least i am prepared to put my head above the parapet and raise issues, and try to to keep people informed about what is going on, and in highlighting some of the failings of those who are supposed to be responsible for our future, yet alone the administration of this town.

Perhaps if more people felt like i did, and were prepared to say things, rather than keep quiet and not rock the boat, then we would all be living in a town which we could be proud of, and which was fit for purpose, and had a secure long term future. Until then we don't.
Rex.....well actually i do, so bad luck, plus I don't see the point of talking to Joe, as i have previously had a discussion with him regarding some of my concerns for the town. Rex...sorry but it isn't exactly rocket science to see some of the problems which are facing this town, nor is it impossible to come up with some plans and solutions to help tackle them. Personally i believe in the power of the community to get on and do things, as when communities own the issues and are part of the solutions, then things get done. Perhaps this is why i get on and do things and lend people a helping hand, and go out of my way for my friends and neighbours However, you seem to keep wanting me to do more, and to stop having a go at Cirencester Town Council (CTC), but i do get involved and i do my bit, which is more than many people do, and surely it is my democratic right, if i so choose, to comment and moan about their lack of progress and what they are failing to achieve. Too many people are eager to attack CDC at every opportunity, like yourself, but CTC, is suppose to have a role to play, and unfortunately it is clear for all to see, that it is failing to address issues which are key to many of the town's residents, or to ensure that their partners, CDC and Gloucestershire County Council, yet alone a range of local partnerships, key to the town and it's future, get on and tackle key issues, and work collaboratively to achieve this. Why isn't CTC reminding key partners of their responsibilities? and ensuring and monitoring the progress of these developments and improvements? Rex.....clearly you and i will never see eye to eye, and to be quite truthful, i am no longer interested in your comments or your personal attacks of myself. At least i am prepared to put my head above the parapet and raise issues, and try to to keep people informed about what is going on, and in highlighting some of the failings of those who are supposed to be responsible for our future, yet alone the administration of this town. Perhaps if more people felt like i did, and were prepared to say things, rather than keep quiet and not rock the boat, then we would all be living in a town which we could be proud of, and which was fit for purpose, and had a secure long term future. Until then we don't. Geoff66
  • Score: 1

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