Development plan outlines residents views for Chesterton housing development

Charles Campion speaks at the consultation on the Chesterton housing development

Charles Campion speaks at the consultation on the Chesterton housing development

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Wilts and Gloucestershire Standard: Brendan McFadden
Wilts and Glos Standard by , Reporter

ARCHITECTS have laid out a vision for the new 2500 home neighbourhood in the south west of Cirencester that includes bringing back rail links to the town and creating a community hub at Chesterton Farm.

Proposals for the development in Chesterton were revealed at a presentation at the Ashcroft Centre in Cirencester by John Thompson & Partners using ideas put forward in a public consultation weekend earlier this month, which was fiercely opposed by residents.

Among other ideas presented were building a new primary school, extending Chesterton cemetery and creating community and retail uses around a new square.

The ideas presented by JTP are included in a conceptual masterplan document that will be developed over the next year and then used as a guide for planning proposals which are expected to be submitted around Christmas 2014.

Charles Campion, a partner at the firm, said: “The Community Planning Weekend was an opportunity for people to share their local knowledge and participate in the planning of this new neighbourhood. The feedback we received was really valuable and has directly influenced the design of the conceptual masterplan.”

“It was also important for us to hear people’s concerns about development in Cirencester and we understand that some residents will continue to object to the principle of the proposal. However, many participants felt that, if the development goes ahead, they want to ensure it is the best possible addition to Cirencester.

“The community planning workshops have allowed us to work to ideas and aspirations that people have but there is still a lot of work to do. We will report to the community through forums until the master panning is completed. There will be an opportunity for people here to look at the process and set up focus groups to look at any key issues.”

The first in a series of forums that will allow people to give further input on the development will take place at 7pm on Wednesday June 18 at the Ashcroft Centre, on Ashcroft Road, Cirencester.

Although many residents turned out in force to vent their anger over the development at the consultation, opinions were more divided following the presentation.

John Carew said: “I think they are still fogging over the real issue which is that local people don’t want it.”

Andrea Pellagram said: “I thought they did a really good job of summarising the key issues that were concerned. They have demonstrated a willing need to work with the community.”

Michael Woolf explained that whilst he neither favoured or opposed the development he had faith JTP could do the work.

“There has been in general a good effort to serve the views of the community and look at the potential impact of the development.”

The recently published CDC 5-year Housing Land Supply report , said 2500 new homes needed to be built in the Chesterton Farm area from 2019 until 2034 at a rate of around 166 houses a year.

To view the conceptual masterplan visit www.scribd.com/doc/226517061/20140519-Masterplan

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7:51pm Thu 22 May 14

Olly Cromwell says...

When do the protests outside the Bathurst walls begin?
When do the protests outside the Bathurst walls begin? Olly Cromwell
  • Score: 5

8:32pm Thu 22 May 14

safetyaware says...

I believe this article grossly miss-represents the meeting. This was a presentation given by the developers at which they produced an outline plan, miraculously produced and printed in three days. The residents were not given any opportunity to comment on these plans, there was no debate! The ideas from the consultation weekend USED by the developers were cherry picked to present a warm and friendly feel. The apparent reduction in UNITS from 2500 to 2350 was also intended to show that they had listened to local concerns; negligable difference! The GREEN areas are mostly areas that they cannot build on anyway.
The "... potential for bringing rail links back to the town ..." is a red herring. Completely pie in the sky - this will not be paid for by the developers and nor will anyone else. The community hub at Chesterton Farm (listed buildings) will be totally dependant on the local community, again nothing to do with the developers as to how it takes shape. ".... creating community and retail uses around a new square". Sounds wonderful until you notice the area set aside on the plan for such a facility - about a quarter of the size of the farm yard!
There are glaring omissions from this plan; is one primary school going to be enough? What about a secondary school, what about a health centre? The access to the site, a major consideration given the magnitude of the development, is only now being looked at.
Charles Campion said: "We understand some residents will continue to object ...". A magnificent understatement, virtually all residents continue to object but our voices are not being heard.
The master plan is working, PR is having the desired effect for the developers. The only sensible comment came from John Carew; watch out when the fog clears!
Who says we need this number of houses inn our town?
I believe this article grossly miss-represents the meeting. This was a presentation given by the developers at which they produced an outline plan, miraculously produced and printed in three days. The residents were not given any opportunity to comment on these plans, there was no debate! The ideas from the consultation weekend USED by the developers were cherry picked to present a warm and friendly feel. The apparent reduction in UNITS from 2500 to 2350 was also intended to show that they had listened to local concerns; negligable difference! The GREEN areas are mostly areas that they cannot build on anyway. The "... potential for bringing rail links back to the town ..." is a red herring. Completely pie in the sky - this will not be paid for by the developers and nor will anyone else. The community hub at Chesterton Farm (listed buildings) will be totally dependant on the local community, again nothing to do with the developers as to how it takes shape. ".... creating community and retail uses around a new square". Sounds wonderful until you notice the area set aside on the plan for such a facility - about a quarter of the size of the farm yard! There are glaring omissions from this plan; is one primary school going to be enough? What about a secondary school, what about a health centre? The access to the site, a major consideration given the magnitude of the development, is only now being looked at. Charles Campion said: "We understand some residents will continue to object ...". A magnificent understatement, virtually all residents continue to object but our voices are not being heard. The master plan is working, PR is having the desired effect for the developers. The only sensible comment came from John Carew; watch out when the fog clears! Who says we need this number of houses inn our town? safetyaware
  • Score: 17

9:36am Fri 23 May 14

mr fleas says...

A railway. Ha ha. Will it be High Speed too? Why not dig a new canal while they're at it, for those people moving in for the slower pace of rural town life.

Three new homes to be completed each week! Over 15 years! It seems at the same time, a reckless and desperate rush and yet not soon enough to prevent the bubble bursting on the so-called housing crisis. Or another deep recession. Are there contigencies in the plans for when this happens? I mean, are the developers obliged to carry on regardless, despite losses?
A railway. Ha ha. Will it be High Speed too? Why not dig a new canal while they're at it, for those people moving in for the slower pace of rural town life. Three new homes to be completed each week! Over 15 years! It seems at the same time, a reckless and desperate rush and yet not soon enough to prevent the bubble bursting on the so-called housing crisis. Or another deep recession. Are there contigencies in the plans for when this happens? I mean, are the developers obliged to carry on regardless, despite losses? mr fleas
  • Score: 13

11:18am Fri 23 May 14

ciren34 says...

Has noone thought of starting up an action group to try and stop this or at least make it as difficult as possible for the developers and Bathurst family? How come if there's any development in Stroud, people do their utmost to try and stop it? This new development will turn us into another Swindon. I have friends from Swindon who when they come into Cirencester past the big Tesco say how ugly the entrance to the town looks with all the new development, they're really surprised that a Cotswolds town looks like this. Now the entrance from the Tetbury/Malmesbury is going to look the same. It's horrendous to think all that countryside is going to be destroyed and instead we're offered a playground and a manmade country park which according to Glos wildlife trust is better for the environment, what a joke.
Has noone thought of starting up an action group to try and stop this or at least make it as difficult as possible for the developers and Bathurst family? How come if there's any development in Stroud, people do their utmost to try and stop it? This new development will turn us into another Swindon. I have friends from Swindon who when they come into Cirencester past the big Tesco say how ugly the entrance to the town looks with all the new development, they're really surprised that a Cotswolds town looks like this. Now the entrance from the Tetbury/Malmesbury is going to look the same. It's horrendous to think all that countryside is going to be destroyed and instead we're offered a playground and a manmade country park which according to Glos wildlife trust is better for the environment, what a joke. ciren34
  • Score: 13

11:57am Fri 23 May 14

Rex Cooper says...

This newspaper report is about as misrepresentative as it can be without suspicion of undue influence. The true story is that residents are furious and angry and we get this slimey PR job.
This newspaper report is about as misrepresentative as it can be without suspicion of undue influence. The true story is that residents are furious and angry and we get this slimey PR job. Rex Cooper
  • Score: 13

12:32pm Fri 23 May 14

Cotswold Lad says...

The Wilts and Glos Standard must decide if it is a real local newspaper that represents the views of local people or it is simply publishing press releases from their South Wales office. Local people are mad as hell but rich landowners and developers are determined to get their way. You cannot write just what the rich want to happen.
The Wilts and Glos Standard must decide if it is a real local newspaper that represents the views of local people or it is simply publishing press releases from their South Wales office. Local people are mad as hell but rich landowners and developers are determined to get their way. You cannot write just what the rich want to happen. Cotswold Lad
  • Score: 17

12:53pm Fri 23 May 14

Geoff66 says...

Perhaps some people don't realise that most developers have spent a considerable amount of time, money and planning, developing blue prints and scheme concepts and designs, before they even consider presenting their plans for public consultation.

So when they say they are working from a "blank piece of paper" and are "working with the local community to develop their designs", what they really mean is, that they are simply tweaking their designs, but perhaps more worryingly using these events to demonstrate that they have worked with the local community, local people and local groups, to demonstrate that they have consulted with, and have taken into account the needs, worries and aspirations of these people.

So in reality, this consultation period, is simply a process of a-pleasing the local council (planning department and planning committee) to demonstrate that their designs have taken into account the views and needs of the local community and therefore warrant approval

Do you really think, yet alone believe, that developers would go out to the local community with a "blank piece of paper", otherwise we will end up with - swimming pools, ice rinks, houses with all of the storage and spaces which people could ever desire, and streets and roads which could grace the most beautiful and desirable towns and cities of the world.....as if!!

NO.....developers have already worked closely with planners and designers to come up with their "almost final" concepts.

So who will ultimately who will be the winners from this development?
- well the Bathhurst Estates Ltd will make a mint (£220 million has been suggested)
- the developers will make a mint from house buyers
- Cotswold District can hide behind its Five Year Development Land Strategy and ensure that they have meet the needs of the Cotswold's housing strategy (6630 new homes to be built by 2031)

So who will be the losers?
- Cirencester's green-belt, our countryside and our wildlife
- the resident's of both Chesterton and Cirencester, who will for evermore have to live with the consequences of this influx of population, increased traffic and more demands on our struggling infrastructure, and the town's limited resources and amenities
- Cirencester, because this is going to have a major impact upon the town centre as well as more importantly on the town's image
- visitors and tourist, who will soon lose the image of the town's beauty, yet alone its proximity to the countryside, which surely must be one of its unique attractions and selling points
- "The Cotswolds" because soon it will lose its once proud reputation for small and beautiful market towns, which will be replaced with endless housing estates

So what will we gain from this development?
- increased affordable housing....but is it really needed and will it actually address and cope with "local" peoples needs and requirements?
- a community hub...but is it needed, and what impact will it have on other existing local amenities and community provisions. Is it essential to this development, and how will its long-term future be supported and maintained...could it ultimately become a white-elephant and a blot on the landscape
- a school, but is it going to be large enough to cope with the increasing population and ever increasing demands for education and school places in the town (the new school being built at Kingshill to replace the Watermoor primary school is only intended to provide 210 places) and what sort of numbers will be needed to cope with the future plans to redevelop the Chesterton primary school, yet alone future housing numbers, as Cirencester expands in future years, on what seems to be its ever growing expansion towards South Cerney and Kemble.
- a railway station!!! not a chance (it is never going to happen)
- Cotswold District Council....because it is going to benefit from increasing numbers of tax payers
- and perhaps more importantly "ALL of the Cotswolds villages and hamlets" who will not be required to expand their housing numbers, because of CDC's inability to recognise the need and demands to help secure the long term future and sustainability of these very villages, which surely will ultimately risk the long term future of these, and ensure that these villages remain chocolate box stereo typical images of the Cotswold, and unaffordable "second home locations" for the rich and famous, preventing local people from ever being able to afford their own "Cotswold dream"

So Cirencester will suffer, as will local people and the Cotswolds as a whole, in order to meet growing housing needs, and an ever growing society. Yes i do recognise that we must meet the needs of society, but these plans are unrealistic and ill thought out, and are pacing too many demands on Cirencester and its infrastructure, and ultimately Cirencester, yet alone its residents, are going to lose more than they will ever gain.

RIP Cirencester
Perhaps some people don't realise that most developers have spent a considerable amount of time, money and planning, developing blue prints and scheme concepts and designs, before they even consider presenting their plans for public consultation. So when they say they are working from a "blank piece of paper" and are "working with the local community to develop their designs", what they really mean is, that they are simply tweaking their designs, but perhaps more worryingly using these events to demonstrate that they have worked with the local community, local people and local groups, to demonstrate that they have consulted with, and have taken into account the needs, worries and aspirations of these people. So in reality, this consultation period, is simply a process of a-pleasing the local council (planning department and planning committee) to demonstrate that their designs have taken into account the views and needs of the local community and therefore warrant approval Do you really think, yet alone believe, that developers would go out to the local community with a "blank piece of paper", otherwise we will end up with - swimming pools, ice rinks, houses with all of the storage and spaces which people could ever desire, and streets and roads which could grace the most beautiful and desirable towns and cities of the world.....as if!! NO.....developers have already worked closely with planners and designers to come up with their "almost final" concepts. So who will ultimately who will be the winners from this development? - well the Bathhurst Estates Ltd will make a mint (£220 million has been suggested) - the developers will make a mint from house buyers - Cotswold District can hide behind its Five Year Development Land Strategy and ensure that they have meet the needs of the Cotswold's housing strategy (6630 new homes to be built by 2031) So who will be the losers? - Cirencester's green-belt, our countryside and our wildlife - the resident's of both Chesterton and Cirencester, who will for evermore have to live with the consequences of this influx of population, increased traffic and more demands on our struggling infrastructure, and the town's limited resources and amenities - Cirencester, because this is going to have a major impact upon the town centre as well as more importantly on the town's image - visitors and tourist, who will soon lose the image of the town's beauty, yet alone its proximity to the countryside, which surely must be one of its unique attractions and selling points - "The Cotswolds" because soon it will lose its once proud reputation for small and beautiful market towns, which will be replaced with endless housing estates So what will we gain from this development? - increased affordable housing....but is it really needed and will it actually address and cope with "local" peoples needs and requirements? - a community hub...but is it needed, and what impact will it have on other existing local amenities and community provisions. Is it essential to this development, and how will its long-term future be supported and maintained...could it ultimately become a white-elephant and a blot on the landscape - a school, but is it going to be large enough to cope with the increasing population and ever increasing demands for education and school places in the town (the new school being built at Kingshill to replace the Watermoor primary school is only intended to provide 210 places) and what sort of numbers will be needed to cope with the future plans to redevelop the Chesterton primary school, yet alone future housing numbers, as Cirencester expands in future years, on what seems to be its ever growing expansion towards South Cerney and Kemble. - a railway station!!! not a chance (it is never going to happen) - Cotswold District Council....because it is going to benefit from increasing numbers of tax payers - and perhaps more importantly "ALL of the Cotswolds villages and hamlets" who will not be required to expand their housing numbers, because of CDC's inability to recognise the need and demands to help secure the long term future and sustainability of these very villages, which surely will ultimately risk the long term future of these, and ensure that these villages remain chocolate box stereo typical images of the Cotswold, and unaffordable "second home locations" for the rich and famous, preventing local people from ever being able to afford their own "Cotswold dream" So Cirencester will suffer, as will local people and the Cotswolds as a whole, in order to meet growing housing needs, and an ever growing society. Yes i do recognise that we must meet the needs of society, but these plans are unrealistic and ill thought out, and are pacing too many demands on Cirencester and its infrastructure, and ultimately Cirencester, yet alone its residents, are going to lose more than they will ever gain. RIP Cirencester Geoff66
  • Score: 16

6:34pm Fri 23 May 14

esse quam viderie says...

The Maples, Haygarth Close, Foxes Bank Drive, Hanstone Close, Michael's Mead, Morestall Drive, Drift Way, Drift Close, Reeves Close, Rendcomb Drive, Shalford Clsoe, Kemble Drive, Woodhouse Close ---- all built in the last thirty years but with no gain to the town or the community.

So where do all you complainers live?

More importantly where are our children and grandchildren going to live in the next thirty years?.
The Maples, Haygarth Close, Foxes Bank Drive, Hanstone Close, Michael's Mead, Morestall Drive, Drift Way, Drift Close, Reeves Close, Rendcomb Drive, Shalford Clsoe, Kemble Drive, Woodhouse Close ---- all built in the last thirty years but with no gain to the town or the community. So where do all you complainers live? More importantly where are our children and grandchildren going to live in the next thirty years?. esse quam viderie
  • Score: -14

7:48pm Fri 23 May 14

Geoff66 says...

esse quam viderie wrote:
The Maples, Haygarth Close, Foxes Bank Drive, Hanstone Close, Michael's Mead, Morestall Drive, Drift Way, Drift Close, Reeves Close, Rendcomb Drive, Shalford Clsoe, Kemble Drive, Woodhouse Close ---- all built in the last thirty years but with no gain to the town or the community.

So where do all you complainers live?

More importantly where are our children and grandchildren going to live in the next thirty years?.
Esse quam viderie......... get real this development isn't only going to impact upon the residents of the Cranhams Park estate and Chesterton. The impact of this development and increasing the numbers of housing in Cirencester by over 40%, is going to have a significant impact upon the WHOLE OF CIRENCESTER.

An increase of this proportion will impact upon all areas of the town, yet alone its roads, its services, its amenities, its shops, its schools, its hospital, its car parks, its doctors, its dentists, its other health services, yet alone on the council's delivery of services and perhaps even the council's own ability to deliver value for money and effective services.

This is not about areas the town standing against one another, nor is it about local residents thinking themselves lucky, that at least it isn't their community being affected. A development of this magnitude will impact upon all of us, and more importantly ,upon the town as a whole!!

So what is next then if we give in, and simply let this development go ahead, with these huge numbers of new homes?
- what happens in 10 years time when Cirencester is asked yet again to take on an additional two or three thousand further homes?
- what happens when Cirencester doubles or perhaps triples in size, and the Cirencester we once knew and loved, becomes one huge and endless housing estate?
- what happens when we have no room left to develop around Chesterton, Siddington and Kingshill, and they start looking once again at Stratton, Preston, the White Way to provide these new homes?
- what happens when we realise that our town centre and the shops and businesses it contains, can no longer cope with the size and demands of Cirencester's growing and ever expanding population?
- where will the new businesses and jobs be based to meet our growing demands, when we have no room left to develop, and CDC's desire to see land within the town centre and old business premises be redeveloped as exclusive and perhaps unnecessary housing sites?

Lets's be realistic, no one would want this new development to be on their doorstep, and importantly do we really know whether this plan is actually in the best interest of Cirencester, yet alone its residents?

We haven't been asked as a overall community (town) if we want this development, nor have we been asked what the residents of Cirencester actually want or would like to see. We are being expected to pick up a huge quota of the whole of the Cotswolds housing needs without proper discussion, consultation yet alone a townwide agreement.

Why are we letting CDC get away with this?, yet alone Bathurst Estates Ltd making a potential mint, at the cost of the town?, and why are we not questioning the need for this development, yet alone asking ourselves, whether or not this is really wanted, needed, and importantly whether it is in the best interest of our town, our residents and Cirencester itself?

Esse quam viderie..... are you looking after what is best for Cirencester, or are you simply looking after, what is best for YOU!!!!
[quote][p][bold]esse quam viderie[/bold] wrote: The Maples, Haygarth Close, Foxes Bank Drive, Hanstone Close, Michael's Mead, Morestall Drive, Drift Way, Drift Close, Reeves Close, Rendcomb Drive, Shalford Clsoe, Kemble Drive, Woodhouse Close ---- all built in the last thirty years but with no gain to the town or the community. So where do all you complainers live? More importantly where are our children and grandchildren going to live in the next thirty years?.[/p][/quote]Esse quam viderie......... get real this development isn't only going to impact upon the residents of the Cranhams Park estate and Chesterton. The impact of this development and increasing the numbers of housing in Cirencester by over 40%, is going to have a significant impact upon the WHOLE OF CIRENCESTER. An increase of this proportion will impact upon all areas of the town, yet alone its roads, its services, its amenities, its shops, its schools, its hospital, its car parks, its doctors, its dentists, its other health services, yet alone on the council's delivery of services and perhaps even the council's own ability to deliver value for money and effective services. This is not about areas the town standing against one another, nor is it about local residents thinking themselves lucky, that at least it isn't their community being affected. A development of this magnitude will impact upon all of us, and more importantly ,upon the town as a whole!! So what is next then if we give in, and simply let this development go ahead, with these huge numbers of new homes? - what happens in 10 years time when Cirencester is asked yet again to take on an additional two or three thousand further homes? - what happens when Cirencester doubles or perhaps triples in size, and the Cirencester we once knew and loved, becomes one huge and endless housing estate? - what happens when we have no room left to develop around Chesterton, Siddington and Kingshill, and they start looking once again at Stratton, Preston, the White Way to provide these new homes? - what happens when we realise that our town centre and the shops and businesses it contains, can no longer cope with the size and demands of Cirencester's growing and ever expanding population? - where will the new businesses and jobs be based to meet our growing demands, when we have no room left to develop, and CDC's desire to see land within the town centre and old business premises be redeveloped as exclusive and perhaps unnecessary housing sites? Lets's be realistic, no one would want this new development to be on their doorstep, and importantly do we really know whether this plan is actually in the best interest of Cirencester, yet alone its residents? We haven't been asked as a overall community (town) if we want this development, nor have we been asked what the residents of Cirencester actually want or would like to see. We are being expected to pick up a huge quota of the whole of the Cotswolds housing needs without proper discussion, consultation yet alone a townwide agreement. Why are we letting CDC get away with this?, yet alone Bathurst Estates Ltd making a potential mint, at the cost of the town?, and why are we not questioning the need for this development, yet alone asking ourselves, whether or not this is really wanted, needed, and importantly whether it is in the best interest of our town, our residents and Cirencester itself? Esse quam viderie..... are you looking after what is best for Cirencester, or are you simply looking after, what is best for YOU!!!! Geoff66
  • Score: 9

9:41pm Fri 23 May 14

sgouri says...

Geoff66- really interesting comments. There's a growing swell of similar feelings around the town but this somehow needs pulling together. I think there may be groups brewing. You might like to email saveourcirencester@o
utlook.com
Geoff66- really interesting comments. There's a growing swell of similar feelings around the town but this somehow needs pulling together. I think there may be groups brewing. You might like to email saveourcirencester@o utlook.com sgouri
  • Score: 1

9:42am Sat 24 May 14

safetyaware says...

esse quam viderie - your children and grandchildren will probably live where they will work. What are the chances of them getting a job in Cirencester? The competition will be phenomenal, don't forget that there will be 4000+ other people looking for jobs as well! Where are they all going to work. Probably not in Cirencester. Will our offspring be able to afford these so called affordable housing. I have not yet heard a sensible definition of 'affordable housing'.
This is one of the reasons that CDC have dumped the problem on Cirencester. As Geoff66 wrote, it will not only be the people that esse quam viderie listed, it will be the whole town. Don't get too confident that it wont effect me because I live in Straton or where ever, it will!
esse quam viderie - your children and grandchildren will probably live where they will work. What are the chances of them getting a job in Cirencester? The competition will be phenomenal, don't forget that there will be 4000+ other people looking for jobs as well! Where are they all going to work. Probably not in Cirencester. Will our offspring be able to afford these so called affordable housing. I have not yet heard a sensible definition of 'affordable housing'. This is one of the reasons that CDC have dumped the problem on Cirencester. As Geoff66 wrote, it will not only be the people that esse quam viderie listed, it will be the whole town. Don't get too confident that it wont effect me because I live in Straton or where ever, it will! safetyaware
  • Score: 3

11:21am Sat 24 May 14

Rex Cooper says...

esse quam viderie wrote:
The Maples, Haygarth Close, Foxes Bank Drive, Hanstone Close, Michael's Mead, Morestall Drive, Drift Way, Drift Close, Reeves Close, Rendcomb Drive, Shalford Clsoe, Kemble Drive, Woodhouse Close ---- all built in the last thirty years but with no gain to the town or the community.

So where do all you complainers live?

More importantly where are our children and grandchildren going to live in the next thirty years?.
Answer....... Somewhere more appropriate..... near to where the jobs are
[quote][p][bold]esse quam viderie[/bold] wrote: The Maples, Haygarth Close, Foxes Bank Drive, Hanstone Close, Michael's Mead, Morestall Drive, Drift Way, Drift Close, Reeves Close, Rendcomb Drive, Shalford Clsoe, Kemble Drive, Woodhouse Close ---- all built in the last thirty years but with no gain to the town or the community. So where do all you complainers live? More importantly where are our children and grandchildren going to live in the next thirty years?.[/p][/quote]Answer....... Somewhere more appropriate..... near to where the jobs are Rex Cooper
  • Score: 6

8:54pm Sat 24 May 14

Crispin Mount says...

This deliberate lack of foresight by Cotswold District Council (run by Shire Tories from outside of Cirencester) in respect of the missing Local development Plan has produced - how conveniently - the double whammy of dumping on Cirencester in order to hit district wide housing targets quickly, whilst securing a massive windfall for the biggest local landowning Tory supporting family.

No doubt those 3 Tory Cabinet Councillors who make their 'living' from publishing 'Barringtons' the estate agent mag for the Cotswolds, will be relishing the revenues from forthcoming bumper editions advertising 2,500 properties.

See how it's done yet ?
This deliberate lack of foresight by Cotswold District Council (run by Shire Tories from outside of Cirencester) in respect of the missing Local development Plan has produced - how conveniently - the double whammy of dumping on Cirencester in order to hit district wide housing targets quickly, whilst securing a massive windfall for the biggest local landowning Tory supporting family. No doubt those 3 Tory Cabinet Councillors who make their 'living' from publishing 'Barringtons' the estate agent mag for the Cotswolds, will be relishing the revenues from forthcoming bumper editions advertising 2,500 properties. See how it's done yet ? Crispin Mount
  • Score: 4

11:40pm Sat 24 May 14

Jessica Rabbit says...

Out of all the 'local residents' the Standard could have spoken to and quoted they chose a member of CTC who works in planning... not bias then.
Out of all the 'local residents' the Standard could have spoken to and quoted they chose a member of CTC who works in planning... not bias then. Jessica Rabbit
  • Score: 6

2:06am Sun 25 May 14

Robert Jeanes says...

A Railway is needed now - just for those 'following the money' !

"All Aboard the Bisto Special "
A Railway is needed now - just for those 'following the money' ! "All Aboard the Bisto Special " Robert Jeanes
  • Score: 4

8:25am Mon 26 May 14

Geoff66 says...

So from what i can see from the new Master Plan which has been developed..... the main access routes into the new estate will be from the Tetbury Road (2 No.) So if anyone now thinks that this new development is only going to affect people living in Chesterton... think again!!

The Tetbury Road roundabout is already a complete an utter nightmare, and there are going to be around an additional 5,000 cars adding to that congestion daily, yet alone parents dropping off and picking their kids up at the new school and cars accessing the new business park.

If people don't think that increasing the towns housing levels by around 40% isn't going to make a difference to Cirencester over all, then perhaps it is time for you to rethink that.

It is clear that this development is just too big for Cirencester and that it hasn't been thought out, nor has the infrastructure been put in place to address current, yet alone future and on-going problems.
So from what i can see from the new Master Plan which has been developed..... the main access routes into the new estate will be from the Tetbury Road (2 No.) So if anyone now thinks that this new development is only going to affect people living in Chesterton... think again!! The Tetbury Road roundabout is already a complete an utter nightmare, and there are going to be around an additional 5,000 cars adding to that congestion daily, yet alone parents dropping off and picking their kids up at the new school and cars accessing the new business park. If people don't think that increasing the towns housing levels by around 40% isn't going to make a difference to Cirencester over all, then perhaps it is time for you to rethink that. It is clear that this development is just too big for Cirencester and that it hasn't been thought out, nor has the infrastructure been put in place to address current, yet alone future and on-going problems. Geoff66
  • Score: 10

8:17am Tue 27 May 14

Supreme Chancellor Finis Valorum says...

"The Tetbury Road roundabout is already a complete an utter nightmare, and there are going to be around an additional 5,000 cars adding to that congestion daily, yet alone parents dropping off and picking their kids up at the new school and cars accessing the new business park"

That is a major concern and a point well made.

Drive from Tetbury at around 8:30am and some days you can be queued back past the Ag Uni.

How far will the queue be once these 2500 houses have been built?

Make no mistake, they will be.

This public consultation is a red herring ..... planning permission will be granted in weeks.
"The Tetbury Road roundabout is already a complete an utter nightmare, and there are going to be around an additional 5,000 cars adding to that congestion daily, yet alone parents dropping off and picking their kids up at the new school and cars accessing the new business park" That is a major concern and a point well made. Drive from Tetbury at around 8:30am and some days you can be queued back past the Ag Uni. How far will the queue be once these 2500 houses have been built? Make no mistake, they will be. This public consultation is a red herring ..... planning permission will be granted in weeks. Supreme Chancellor Finis Valorum
  • Score: 10

6:02pm Tue 27 May 14

Geoff66 says...

Any reason why the 17 comments on this story have disappeared????
Any reason why the 17 comments on this story have disappeared???? Geoff66
  • Score: 1

7:43pm Tue 27 May 14

cirenandrew says...

How has the figure of 2,500 new houses needed for Cirencester been arrived at? Where will the residents for these houses come from? The prospect of so many new houses on the Chesterton site is dire - comments about traffic congestion at the Tetbury Road roundabout are spot on. The only other road route into Cirencester will be via Somerford Road, with extra traffic encountering the dangerous crossroads at Chesterton Lane. A 40% increase in housing for the town is frightening.

I am not convinced by promises about extra facilities, landscaping etc.The only positive suggestion is the proposal for reopening the branch line to Kemble to relieve some of the inevitable road congestion. Where will the next lump of new housing be once this site has been filled up?
How has the figure of 2,500 new houses needed for Cirencester been arrived at? Where will the residents for these houses come from? The prospect of so many new houses on the Chesterton site is dire - comments about traffic congestion at the Tetbury Road roundabout are spot on. The only other road route into Cirencester will be via Somerford Road, with extra traffic encountering the dangerous crossroads at Chesterton Lane. A 40% increase in housing for the town is frightening. I am not convinced by promises about extra facilities, landscaping etc.The only positive suggestion is the proposal for reopening the branch line to Kemble to relieve some of the inevitable road congestion. Where will the next lump of new housing be once this site has been filled up? cirenandrew
  • Score: 3

8:01pm Tue 27 May 14

safetyaware says...

The rail suggestion came from a wishful thinking 'local resident'. I think the chances of it ever happening are non existant; how much has the track doubling between Kemble and Swindon cost and how long has that taken to come about. The more realistic use of the old railway track is that proposed by the developers - a footpath!
The rail suggestion came from a wishful thinking 'local resident'. I think the chances of it ever happening are non existant; how much has the track doubling between Kemble and Swindon cost and how long has that taken to come about. The more realistic use of the old railway track is that proposed by the developers - a footpath! safetyaware
  • Score: 2

10:39am Wed 28 May 14

Rex Cooper says...

Can anybody answer this question -
What locations would CDC have turned to if Bathurst had not decided to sell them the land ?
If you can answer that you may have found better solutions than Chesterton .
Can anybody answer this question - What locations would CDC have turned to if Bathurst had not decided to sell them the land ? If you can answer that you may have found better solutions than Chesterton . Rex Cooper
  • Score: 4

1:59pm Wed 28 May 14

safetyaware says...

It is not a case of Bathurst selling CDC the land. The council does not buy land. It is up to CDC to find 'suitable' building land within the district. Bathurst Estate has obviously flagged-up the land because of the vast amount of money to be made when it is sold to the developers. The council has been lazy and taken the easy option rather than seek out a variety of opportunities. I can think of a number of small plots that would be suitable for development without imposing such a heavy burden on Cirencester. I don't think that our councillors or their staff are working for the people of Cirencester. They have given little thought to the impact that this development will have on the town or the additional expense the taxpayers of Cirencester will incur when the actual cost of the additional infrastructure becomes known.
It is not a case of Bathurst selling CDC the land. The council does not buy land. It is up to CDC to find 'suitable' building land within the district. Bathurst Estate has obviously flagged-up the land because of the vast amount of money to be made when it is sold to the developers. The council has been lazy and taken the easy option rather than seek out a variety of opportunities. I can think of a number of small plots that would be suitable for development without imposing such a heavy burden on Cirencester. I don't think that our councillors or their staff are working for the people of Cirencester. They have given little thought to the impact that this development will have on the town or the additional expense the taxpayers of Cirencester will incur when the actual cost of the additional infrastructure becomes known. safetyaware
  • Score: 5

11:10pm Wed 28 May 14

MR DOBBY says...

THIS LAND WAS EAR MARKED FOR HOUSING OVER THIRTY YEARS AGO.
THIS LAND WAS EAR MARKED FOR HOUSING OVER THIRTY YEARS AGO. MR DOBBY
  • Score: 1

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